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Old 08-15-2014, 06:48 PM
 
Location: Houston
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I'm optimistic all the time. My personal fortunes don't rise or fall according to who sits in the White House.

You folks must have some sucky lives. Glad I'm not any of you.
As much as I think Bush and Obama both sucked I managed to stay employed throughout both their terms. Need to make three more years (until I am 59.5). I will probably make it.

I am supporting Rand in 2016 for the sake of my grandchildren.
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Old 08-15-2014, 07:59 PM
 
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For the last freakin time, have you never watched SchoolHouse Rock? You all are just sad if you've never seen that program. Obama is mostly only there to look pretty. He is partly at fault but not all to blame.

There is also strength in numbers. If you angry Republicans don't like the way things are going band together. Don't just sit there. If it's a policy that I don't agree with then I'll join you but only if I know everyone else will because I can't do it by myself. They're not going to listen to me because I'm only one person.
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Old 08-15-2014, 10:34 PM
 
Location: Midwest City, Oklahoma
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We are guaranteed to have a better president in two years and probably one who tells less lies and who does not hate the working class.
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The next election will still be full of candidates who can accept funding from large corporations.

I'm not that optimistic.

I am very pessimistic because I believe that government tends towards entropy in the same way that the universe does.

Who really believes this country's best days are ahead of it? Who really believes that this country will become more united(thereby less divided) in the future? Who even believes there will be a United States even a hundred years from now?


I believe the founders were correct about this country, its tendency towards despotism, and how democracy undermines the legitimacy of law itself. For all intents and purposes, there is no constitution. And for that matter, the legitimacy of the state is increasingly questionable. The only future I see, is disorder.



Furthermore, to believe that electing a new president is going to fix our problems is to be completely delusional. It assumes that the people are even capable or willing to elect a man of character.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07w9K2XR3f0

"The known propensity of a democracy is to licentiousness which the ambitious call, and ignorant believe to be liberty." — Fisher Ames

“Democracy is a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance.” — Henry L. Mencken
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Old 08-15-2014, 10:38 PM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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I am very pessimistic because I believe that government tends towards entropy in the same way that the universe does.

Who really believes this country's best days are ahead of it? Who really believes that this country will become more united(thereby less divided) in the future? Who even believes there will be a United States even a hundred years from now?


I believe the founders were correct about this country, its tendency towards despotism, and how democracy undermines the legitimacy of law itself. For all intents and purposes, there is no constitution. And for that matter, the legitimacy of the state is increasingly questionable. The only future I see, is disorder.



Furthermore, to believe that electing a new president is going to fix our problems is to be completely delusional. It assumes that the people are even capable or willing to elect a man of character.



https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=07w9K2XR3f0

"The known propensity of a democracy is to licentiousness which the ambitious call, and ignorant believe to be liberty." — Fisher Ames

“Democracy is a pathetic belief in the collective wisdom of individual ignorance.” — Henry L. Mencken
Elected officals can be broken down to two classes

Those that do the most damage to rights, liberty and wealth

Those that do the least damage to right, liberty an wealth.

We need none of the group A and more of group B.

As long as we prevent amnesty we can restore this nation.
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Old 08-16-2014, 01:00 AM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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As much as I think Bush and Obama both sucked I managed to stay employed throughout both their terms. Need to make three more years (until I am 59.5). I will probably make it.

I am supporting Rand in 2016 for the sake of my grandchildren.
Vote and if necessary Fight like your liberty, life, freedom and prosperity and of your children and their children are at risk, because they are..
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Old 08-16-2014, 06:16 AM
 
Location: Houston
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Vote and if necessary Fight like your liberty, life, freedom and prosperity and of your children and their children are at risk, because they are..

I used my 30-06 to shoot down a drone just a few minutes ago.

Crap...the neighbor just came over and started whining about someone shooting down his radio controlled plane.
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Old 08-16-2014, 06:20 AM
 
Location: Las Vegas,Nevada
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I used my 30-06 to shoot down a drone just a few minutes ago.
Really? Pics or it did not happen..
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Old 08-16-2014, 01:26 PM
 
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Americans thought that in 2008 and tried that approach - look at the results.
And then look at the results of the last midterms.

Handwriting is on the wall.
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Old 08-18-2014, 04:03 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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Who is on the receiving end of that $3.7 trillion? Medicare, Tricare, VA, Medicaid for seniors, Defense, Defense-civilian employees. Here is a dirty little secret 45% of federal employees are veterans. The 3.7 trillion budget goes to people who vote reliably Republican. Heck if there is someone giving a federal handout the person on the other end is most likely a Republican. Down in Bakersfield, California the Tea Party-conservative types have no trouble signing up for the ACA and then voting for a guy who wants to kill it. Can you explain that if you are a Tea Partier?

Lots of newly insured back home, but Kevin McCarthy
No, because I'm not a Tea Party member. But signing up for ACA is the law. So I guess Tea Party members are just obeying the law.

But how did you decide that $3.7 trillion is going to Republicans?
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Old 08-18-2014, 04:04 PM
 
Location: Dallas
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Haven't you had enough already?

Drinking? No.
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