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Some places they actually pay decent wages. Too many growers have come to rely on the contract labor forces that employ illegals. Most of these farm areas are interestingly enough are almost totally controlled by Republican politics whether its Texas, Yuma, Palm Springs, California Central Valley, Columbia River Basin, etc. you can go on and on. Rural Farm politics is almost always Republican unless they want another hand out.
I seem to recall when Alabama enacted harsher policies on hiring undocumented immigrants, a lot of food ended up rotting in the field because producers couldn't find American workers to do the work as quickly or as well (or at all).
That is the migrant worker program. After the harvest they move on.
And then they go home again until next year.
That is not what the 30+ million other illegals are doing.
They are doing construction, landscaping, janitorial and restaurant services.
They are the lawn guys doing mowing, replacing roofs, painting houses, framing at construction sites, cleaning your houses, watching your kids at daycare.
Heck a few of them even get into the system and get government jobs.
Denver is going out of their way to hire deferred illegals as teachers.
Whatever it is they are doing must be paying well as the average amount of $400 is being sent "home" weekly through Western Union by these illegals.
There are only 156 million individuals in the entire American workforce. United States Labor Force Statistics - Seasonally Adjusted
Everything you say is groundless unless you can validate with reputable links that show there are 30 million illegal immigrants in the nation. This would mean that a full 20% of the entire American workforce is composed of illegal immigrants.
Let's run the numbers shall we?
$400 per week, sent home by 30 million illegals. That translates to a staggering 12 billion dollars a week or 48 billion dollars a month. So over the course of a year, you are saying that the illegal immigrants in the nation are sending home 576 billion dollars a year. That's more than the entire military defense and security budget of the United States. which is at 530 billion as of 2011.
The United States spends far more than any other country on defense and security. Since 2001, the base defense budget has soared from $287 billion to $530 billion http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/...get-in-charts/
Prove your statement that (A), there are 30+ million illegal immigrants and (B), that 30+ million illegal immigrants are sending 400 dollars a week home.
I got all day. I'll wait.
Excellent point. One of the issues I had with GWB was his stance on illegal immigration.
He or perhaps his handlers understood he needed at least 40 % of the Hispanic vote to win in 2004. Advocating for amnesty got the votes. Expanding Medicare also got him the senior vote.
I have no idea how Bush or any politician personally feels about any topic. It's all about pandering to the polls and more importantly, their financial backers. It has nothing to do with partisanship.
IBM, Apple, ExxonMobile...or any other fortune 500 company can care less about the wages at the illegal alien--American worker level. It does not effect their bottom line. The products, goods, and services they use are not influenced on whether the products purchased come from company that hires illegal aliens, does not hire illegal aliens.
That is a load of crap. There is a McD's in Chicago that has been raided at least three times for hiring illegal aliens. On any given day the illegal aliens make up a significant chunk of their workforce. After they get raided they can't even function because they have such a bare bones crew.
The problem becomes if the farmer in the neighboring state is using illegal immigrants then the farmer following the law cannot remain competitive becsue of the higher costs. Someone has to pick produce, if every farmer was forced to hire legal workers they would have to increase the pay scale until someone took the job.
Farmers have been importing labor to pick the crops for more than 100 years, way before minimum wage laws, labor laws, payroll taxes, welfare benefits and so on. This is a global employment pattern.
There was a brief time out during the Great Depression when these US jobs meant the difference between eating versus not.
FYI, only 3% of illegals are working the fields. The rest are doing jobs that Americans have always done for a fair wage that is until the arrival of cheap, illegal labor that lowered those wages.
Or until US employers decided to employ undocumented workers, the root cause of illegal immigration.
Reality is - illegal invaders are here. No thanks to our dumbazz government.
Anyway, the fact is, they will be taking jobs from any USA citizen.
So complain all you want, but it wont get you a job. Now people MUST try harder. Before it was a kind of an option. Now it will be fighting tooth and nail for a job.
There are only 156 million individuals in the entire American workforce. United States Labor Force Statistics - Seasonally Adjusted
Everything you say is groundless unless you can validate with reputable links that show there are 30 million illegal immigrants in the nation. This would mean that a full 20% of the entire American workforce is composed of illegal immigrants.
Let's run the numbers shall we?
$400 per week, sent home by 30 million illegals. That translates to a staggering 12 billion dollars a week or 48 billion dollars a month. So over the course of a year, you are saying that the illegal immigrants in the nation are sending home 576 billion dollars a year. That's more than the entire military defense and security budget of the United States. which is at 530 billion as of 2011.
Prove your statement that (A), there are 30+ million illegal immigrants and (B), that 30+ million illegal immigrants are sending 400 dollars a week home. I got all day. I'll wait.
Try google because I'm not going to hand feed you info that is out there to be read.
And that 30 million includes kids and women and old folks..not just workers and that's an estimate which is just as good as the 10 year static 11 million estimate our government keeps feeding us.
Well something did change. Reagan granted amnesty to a large group of undocumented people and gave hope to thousands more. Guess he was one of those "repulsive liberals."
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