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How is that hatred of the middle class? I recognize not only the incredibly disgusting business model of McDonalds, but also the common knowledge fact that businesses sometimes shutdown, and while it's unfortunate for those who work there, the government need not concern itself with laws that damage massive, multinational corporations that make profit by exploiting those who are easily exploited; like the poor! The dollar menu is a great way to get the poor to support their company, which is unfortunate given the already poor standards poor people have. Feeding them McDonald's is certainly not doing them a single favor.
So... in saying you want McDonald's to stay around, does that mean you hate the poor? That they deserve obesity and junk 'food?'
How, because most McDonalds are not owned by multinational corporations, they are owned by individuals or LLC's that are controlled by middle class people. Shutting down McDonalds, would cause them to lose their business. But, of course, you don't care about them. As long as you stick it to the McDonalds corporation, who cares how many small business owners you destrow.
Do you think McD owners are middle class? Lol. Average franchise is about 1.5 mil. Lol that's your middle class McDonald owner lol
Mcdonalds has nothing to do with middle class, the restaurants are neither owned by or employ the members of the middle class.
There are these things called business loans. Even the website about getting a franchise explains and offers loans to do so. I might hazard a guess that not even 1% of McDonald's owners walked up to the Corp with a suitcase of cash that they had hidden under their bed. So that makes these owners even poorer on a yearly basis as they are struggling to pay off the loan.
no it isn't you don't have to lie to try and debate.
You just called me a liar which violates tos. Lucky for you I don't go crying to the modes like some other members here.
I can do better which is tp prove you wrong. Here:
Total Investment: $1,000,708 - $2,335,146
Franchise Fee: $45,000
Term of Franchise Agreement: 20 years, renewable
FINANCIAL REQUIREMENTS
Liquid Cash Available: $750,000
OPERATIONS
88% of all franchisees own more than one unit. Absentee ownership of franchise is NOT allowed. (100% of current franchisees are owner/operators).
Does someone with $750K in cash sound like a typical member of a middle class to you?
How, because most McDonalds are not owned by multinational corporations, they are owned by individuals or LLC's that are controlled by middle class people. Shutting down McDonalds, would cause them to lose their business. But, of course, you don't care about them. As long as you stick it to the McDonalds corporation, who cares how many small business owners you destrow.
We aren't talking about middle class people though. The average McD's does around $2.6 million in sales and has a profit in the mid to high 6 figures. A middle class income, by definition, is in the middle of the economic spectrum. IE: $50K.
I tend to agree, but I want to point out that we aren't talking about min wage. These are private people arguing with a private employer to raise their privately paid wages. It's no different to me than when Mexican workers go on strike.
The workers of a private company have every right to demand better pay. Should those who decide their pay turn them down (which they have every right to), they best hope the next herd of employees they hire don't demand the same thing.
Constant protests are bad PR.
Although, I highly doubt it matters with companies like McDonald's. Everyone knows how awful it is, but they're still around. People value the convenience of fast things than actual food.
We aren't talking about middle class people though. The average McD's does around $2.6 million in sales and has a profit in the mid to high 6 figures. A middle class income, by definition, is in the middle of the economic spectrum. IE: $50K.
you know that is not true, and your own link proved you were wrong. so you can try that argument with someone who will not look up your sources.
Sure, sure. Average member of middle class can definitely secure a $2M business loan ROTFL
Why don't you try that theory with your bank? Lol
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Originally Posted by irspow
There are these things called business loans. Even the website about getting a franchise explains and offers loans to do so. I might hazard a guess that not even 1% of McDonald's owners walked up to the Corp with a suitcase of cash that they had hidden under their bed. So that makes these owners even poorer on a yearly basis as they are struggling to pay off the loan.
An argument based on reason, and reason alone. One of a kind...
Should a McDonald's employee make $15 an hour? Guess what, unless you work for McDonalds, be it a manager, board member, or burger flipper, it's probably not your business. If fast food places suddenly are required to pay their employees at least $15 a hour and that impacts them negatively, oh well.
if you are saying it can be required of them you are saying it is someone else's business.
No you didn't. You linked to a blog stating what the average FF owner salary is - that's not net profit and it's not McD's. Nobody is going to invest $750K+ just to make $47K.
Ok, it looks like McD's profit is in the mid to high 6 figures at $2.2-$2.6 million, so definitely not $47K.
you know that is not true, and your own link proved you were wrong. so you can try that argument with someone who will not look up your sources.
You need about $2M and $750K in liquid assets just to OPEN a McDonald restaurant.
Does $2M investment or $750K in cash sound like typical middle class to you? Lol
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