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Old 09-13-2014, 08:26 AM
 
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Do you realize that the chart you posted proves my point? The U.S. has a positive progressivity value while European countries have a NEGATIVE progressivity value.
I know, but it works in the favor of all citizens as it's progressively distributed.
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Old 09-13-2014, 08:28 AM
 
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I know, but it works in the favor of all citizens as it's progressively distributed.
Do you not understand the concept of a negative value?

That actually means that those countries' tax systems are regressive, as the articles I've posted clearly state.

Knowledge is power.
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Old 09-13-2014, 08:39 AM
 
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No, it isn't. Pay careful attention to the charts:

Other countries don’t have a “47%” - The Washington Post
Do you know what distribution means?
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Old 09-13-2014, 08:49 AM
 
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Do you know what distribution means?
Yes, I do. What you are very clearly missing is that the "distribution" goes to higher income earners in a REGRESSIVE tax model.

The key factor that you are missing is the NEGATIVE values assigned to European countries' tax progressivity factor.

Is this over your head? You seem to be coming to a completely different conclusion than are the actual researchers and the WaPo article.
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Old 09-13-2014, 09:08 AM
 
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Yes, I do. What you are very clearly missing is that the "distribution" goes to higher income earners in a REGRESSIVE tax model.

The key factor that you are missing is the NEGATIVE values assigned to European countries' tax progressivity factor.

Is this over your head? You seem to be coming to a completely different conclusion than are the actual researchers and the WaPo article.
I think you have a hard time reading graphs.
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Old 09-13-2014, 09:14 AM
 
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I think you have a hard time reading graphs.
I read them the same way the economists and reporters read them.

Somehow, you have a completely different interpretation.
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Old 09-13-2014, 09:27 AM
 
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I read them the same way the economists and reporters read them.

Somehow, you have a completely different interpretation.
Then why is is hard for you to comprehend that Nordic countries have more generous distribution, Mr Economist? lol
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Old 09-13-2014, 09:36 AM
 
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What Mr. Economist overlooked.

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What's going on here? Basically, all of the progressivity of our fellow developed nations' welfare states comes on the spending side. They spend a whole lot more on transfer programs, education and health services, and other initiatives that are redistributive in impact. We, by contrast, tax progressively, and then spread the money around in a less progressive fashion.
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Old 09-13-2014, 09:38 AM
 
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Then why is is hard for you to comprehend that Nordic countries have more generous distribution, Mr Economist? lol
Have you somehow overlooked the fact that the graph you posted has two axes? Do you even know what that means?
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Old 09-13-2014, 09:39 AM
 
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Have you somehow overlooked the fact that the graph you posted has two axes? Do you even know what that means?
Stay on topic.
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