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Old 09-09-2014, 09:34 PM
 
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If you want the Nordic model to even have a chance you would have to homogenize the US, you know, either rid the country of those who are not European by the old-school way of calculation or make everyone an iota in the melting pot, which never really happened btw.

What is so wondrous about Scandinavia? Have you tried emigrating and been turned down? Do thoughts of elves hiding in tree stumps and blondes cavorting in snow seem possible?
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Old 09-09-2014, 09:43 PM
 
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An average of a 45% tax rate? Um no thanks.




I'll still drink their Svedka Vodka
Non factor

California and NYC have high tax rates yet are home to some of the biggest companies and people in the world.
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Old 09-09-2014, 09:47 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Non factor

California and NYC have high tax rates yet are home to some of the biggest companies and people in the world.
I don't think they're as high in NYC and CA as they are in Scandinavia.
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Old 09-09-2014, 09:48 PM
 
Location: ATX-HOU
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An average of a 45% tax rate? Um no thanks.




I'll still drink their Svedka Vodka
Sounds like a lot until you see their standard of living and what they get out of it. It's amazing what your country's citizens can achieve by providing them more....
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Old 09-09-2014, 09:51 PM
 
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I don't think they're as high in NYC and CA as they are in Scandinavia.
Yes, but it supports the fact that high tax rates aren't a detriment to growth or prosperity.
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Old 09-09-2014, 10:16 PM
 
Location: Lost in Montana *recalculating*...
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Very closed society as far as citizenship and ethnicity. Special interests are about moot- it's all for one and one for all.

Not a melting pot, which we are. We have a diverse culture of citizens and corporate interests, and quite frankly a greed induced political culture, not service minded.

Wouldn't be adopted here... yet.
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Old 09-09-2014, 10:16 PM
 
Location: Dangling from a mooses antlers
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Yes, but it supports the fact that high tax rates aren't a detriment to growth or prosperity.
So why are so many companies leaving California and New York? Why are they moving to states that have lower tax rates?
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Old 09-09-2014, 10:18 PM
 
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So why are so many companies leaving California and New York? Why are they moving to states that have lower tax rates?
There are exceptions.
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Old 09-09-2014, 11:00 PM
 
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Too many white people. Sounds atrocious, where's the vibrancy and diversity? Can't these blond haired blued eyed devils use some education from *anyone not white* other people?
No, they can't. Diversity is a crock of nonsense. It's a slogan liberals use to drum up support and make themselves sound enlightened. The reality is that diversity is weaker. It always has been. But since the Republicans have the mainstream majority vote locked up, the Democrats have been forced to go in the opposite direction so they trumpet how wonderful diversity is.

Now, that's not to say that white is better than black or brown is better than yellow. French people aren't better than English people and Japanese people aren't better than Mexican people. People are people. Every race, every nationality, and both genders have smart and strong and stupid and weak individuals. But society needs cohesion. A sense of community. A sense of shared heritage and common interests and goals.

Any society which celebrates a lack of unity is a weak society. Diversity as a core value is a detriment. That's what history teaches us. That's what psychology teaches us. But for their own political gain, liberals have tried to force an opposite philosophy into prominence. And they've succeeded.
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I'm mostly a Scandinavian descendant, and remember how well received my children were when we lived in "diverse" Baltimore. Great to hear the black Dad, announce when my two blonde haired blue eyed boys showed up to play basketball, exclaim "The Aryan Nation is Here!" got a good chuckle out of that one.
But of course he only got that chuckle because he was black so he was "allowed" to say that. Just as Charlie Rangel called white people crackers in a radio interview and suffered no ill effects at the same time as Paula Dean got fired for admitting to having used the "n" word in her distant past. If it had been you saying the same thing, you would have been viewed suspiciously as a racist. Thus, my point that diversity doesn't work. You only make it work by forcing thought control on people. Different colors, ages, and sexes are encouraged but different opinions are not. And that leads to a lack of original thought, innovation, and creativity - which are the things that really do make a society vibrant.
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Old 09-09-2014, 11:06 PM
 
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Where would you place the offshore oil rigs like the ones Sweden relies on to finance their social state?
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