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Old 04-24-2014, 08:35 PM
 
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... after seeing what the governor and state legislature have done to the state? Seriously, all of Kay Hagan's prospective Republican opponents are like Todd Aiken-level idiots. It makes me angry just thinking about what they have done to a once proudly progressive state.
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Old 04-25-2014, 06:35 AM
 
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So you vote for a "party' not a person? There in lies the root of the problem.
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Old 04-25-2014, 07:27 AM
 
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Ahh, Kay Hagan...Democrat. In a radio ad that moron is actually bashing her Republican opponent for calling Obamacare a great idea. Imagine that! No wonder you poor libs are confused.

Kay Hagan says GOP rival Thom Tillis called Obamacare 'a great idea' | PolitiFact
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Old 04-25-2014, 08:30 AM
 
Location: Never Never Land
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Proudly Progressive? LOL. I would never describe North Carolina that way. I would like to know what horrible things those "evil" Republicans have done? You mean like, requiring an ID to vote, ohhh the horrors...
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Old 04-25-2014, 08:52 AM
 
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I am not an expert on NC, but for at least fifty years democrats have had much of the control in state politics and NC went massively in debt, had way above average unemployment, and education got worse and worse. This is the first time NC has had a Repub governor and majority state legislators.

Since the Repubs took over two years ago, the economy is bouncing back, and they just had the second highest increase in unemployment drop in the country.
NC Shows Country's Second Largest Employment Increase

Where the Repubs should be ashamed is in their recent loosening of environmental restrictions on Duke Energy
Coal and the recent environmental disaster with the Dan River. Thankfully, there was such an outcry, the Repubs are reversing some of their irresponsible policies. The Dems were just as bought off for decades by Duke.
Both parties in this country are corrupt and incompetent - it is sadly naive to think one party will save a state.
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Old 04-25-2014, 01:27 PM
 
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Vote for the Mule or an Elephant. Is this not a Circus?
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Old 04-26-2014, 12:16 AM
 
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Ahh, Kay Hagan...Democrat. In a radio ad that moron is actually bashing her Republican opponent for calling Obamacare a great idea. Imagine that! No wonder you poor libs are confused.

Kay Hagan says GOP rival Thom Tillis called Obamacare 'a great idea' | PolitiFact
Lmao, I think it is you who is confused. Thom Tillis is running against a Tea Party favorite that has about a 0% chance in a general election name Greg Brannon. The objective of the ad is to get Republicans who don't like Obamacare to vote for Brannon and not Tillis, now when I saw that I thought to myself "God that is so obvious no one would possibly be stupid enough to fall for it, I mean anyone should be able to see that for what it is a cheap ploy to boost Brannon."

Well I have to admit that Kay Hagan has folks better pegged then I do.

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Old 04-26-2014, 12:24 AM
 
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I am not an expert on NC, but for at least fifty years democrats have had much of the control in state politics and NC went massively in debt, had way above average unemployment, and education got worse and worse. This is the first time NC has had a Repub governor and majority state legislators.

Since the Repubs took over two years ago, the economy is bouncing back, and they just had the second highest increase in unemployment drop in the country.
NC Shows Country's Second Largest Employment Increase

Uh do you actually live in North Carolina. I am guessing not because the exact opposite is happening. We now have a $221 million + tax shortfall and such that the governor cannot keep his promise to give teachers their first raise in years. We also have been hemorraghing jobs. The only reason our unemployment rate is lower is because the legislature passed laws to kick hundreds of thousands of people off the roles so they just aren't counted. In otherwords we count our unemployment differently then the 49 other states, which is why despite two months of consecutive job losses in January and February our unemployment rate fell sharply (Yes Virginia, during that period North Carolina was growing in population, losing jobs, but yet has a lower unemployment rate. If you can make sense of this w/o looking at the blatant manipulation let me know). Republicans are dealing with the economy hear like they dealt with sea level rise, which is to say they passed a bunch of laws telling rewriting what the figures were rather then changing the problem

RALEIGH: Broad teacher pay hike unlikely, NC political leaders say | State Politics | NewsObserver.com
NC employers shed thousands of jobs in February; unemployment rate dips :: WRAL.com

And then you have education lets just say that is where the GOP has really screwed the pooch, NC has serious issues with teacher flight. 97% of teachers say moral is low and even wealthier urban counties are experiencing massive teacher flight.

http://www.newsobserver.com/2014/04/...-increase.html

Quite simply if your rosy picture of the state government in NC were actually true the general assembly might be able to do better then a 17% approval rating. I would also doubt that the Governor would be tied with his likely 2016 opponent this far out.

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Old 04-26-2014, 04:33 AM
 
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Uh do you actually live in North Carolina. I am guessing not because the exact opposite is happening. We now have a $221 million + tax shortfall and such that the governor cannot keep his promise to give teachers their first raise in years. We also have been hemorraghing jobs. The only reason our unemployment rate is lower is because the legislature passed laws to kick hundreds of thousands of people off the roles so they just aren't counted. In otherwords we count our unemployment differently then the 49 other states, which is why despite two months of consecutive job losses in January and February our unemployment rate fell sharply (Yes Virginia, during that period North Carolina was growing in population, losing jobs, but yet has a lower unemployment rate. If you can make sense of this w/o looking at the blatant manipulation let me know). Republicans are dealing with the economy hear like they dealt with sea level rise, which is to say they passed a bunch of laws telling rewriting what the figures were rather then changing the problem

RALEIGH: Broad teacher pay hike unlikely, NC political leaders say | State Politics | NewsObserver.com
NC employers shed thousands of jobs in February; unemployment rate dips :: WRAL.com

And then you have education lets just say that is where the GOP has really screwed the pooch, NC has serious issues with teacher flight. 97% of teachers say moral is low and even wealthier urban counties are experiencing massive teacher flight.

RALEIGH: Wake County sees 'alarming' increase in teacher resignations | Education | NewsObserver.com

Quite simply if your rosy picture of the state government in NC were actually true the general assembly might be able to do better then a 17% approval rating. I would also doubt that the Governor would be tied with his likely 2016 opponent this far out.
Do you think Hagan will win?
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Old 04-26-2014, 06:00 AM
 
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Egbert,
Yes, I live in NC in the Asheville area.
I am politically independent and am not a cheerleader for the Repubs, but my point was that Dems have been in control of the state for fifty years and were highly corrupt (does John Edwards ring a bell?) and made some serious mistakes that the Repubs are trying to turn around. My area of NC is bouncing back already. Two of my neighbors are builders and have turned down jobs because they are so busy. Housing developments are going in all over the Weaverville area. Whole Foods is now building a huge new building, another brewery is coming, and another big hotel is coming in.

Teacher wages are abysmal here, but the teacher flight and low wages was happening under the Democrats control! And sadly is continuing with the Repubs.
I am not pleased with some of the Repubs policies, especially their environmental corruption with Duke, but feel it is naive to think after fifty years of dem control that all these problems are from the short time the Repubs have been in control.
Both parties are just as corrupt and bought off by special interests.
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