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No, they don't. But it seems that the only time Satanist groups work their way into these public arenas is after an Atheist group swoops in and sues to allow all for all religions. Why are groups who have no religion (or hate religion) fighting for the rights of other faiths? The group that filed the lawsuit in the Oklahoma display was from out of New York. The Satanists didn't seem to care about this display until after the door was kicked down for them.
We don't see a flood of other religions getting their foot in the door, its just Satanists, because those filing these lawsuits are Atheists trying to make a statement by reaching for the most extreme group they can find to cause controversy and anger Christians.
I think the more pressing question is why are Christians attempting to seek out my kids and proselytize to them without my consent or presence. That's a vile thing to do.
No, they don't. But it seems that the only time Satanist groups work their way into these public arenas is after an Atheist group swoops in and sues to allow all for all religions. Why are groups who have no religion (or hate religion) fighting for the rights of other faiths? The group that filed the lawsuit in the Oklahoma display was from out of New York. The Satanists didn't seem to care about this display until after the door was kicked down for them.
We don't see a flood of other religions getting their foot in the door, its just Satanists, because those filing these lawsuits are Atheists trying to make a statement by reaching for the most extreme group they can find to cause controversy and anger Christians.
An atheist does not believe in a god and or a devil. It takes believing in a religion and a greater body to believe in either one. Christians and christianity is not the sole religion, yet it is they that often push theirs as if it is the only one. Inclusion of any religion also should be inclusion of all beliefs or non beliefs, not just christianity. Leave religion to the church and out of schools.
No, they don't. But it seems that the only time Satanist groups work their way into these public arenas is after an Atheist group swoops in and sues to allow all for all religions.
And this typically only occurs after Christians have made an attempt to evangelize where they don't belong. It is always begun by Christians and then the Christians whine incessantly because others expect the same rights they demand.
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We don't see a flood of other religions getting their foot in the door, its just Satanists, because those filing these lawsuits are Atheists trying to make a statement by reaching for the most extreme group they can find to cause controversy and anger Christians.
If Christians would stop kicking down doors into places they don't belong, there would be no cause for any other groups to follow through to present alternative points of view. Again, the Christians kick the door open and then get all pissy about who follows them through. If Christians would keep their proselytizing to themselves there would be no problem.
"If a public school board is going to allow religious pamphlets and full Bibles to be distributed to students — as is the case in Orange County, Florida — we think the responsible thing to do is to ensure that these students are given access to a variety of differing religious opinions, as opposed to standing idly by while one religious voice dominates the discourse and delivers propaganda to youth.”
Of course, you would rather that one religion dominates the propaganda, and one religion only, right?
I swear, you Christians are the most insecure lot I've ever seen. If your faith is so solid, why are you so threatened by others?
Perhaps because there are so many people trying to limit the rights of how someone can freely practice their religion?
I don't have problems with other faiths getting the opportunity for equal representation. But this debate always involves Satanism because those pulling the strings know it irritates Christians. To think these groups honestly give a damn about Satanists getting equal representation is naive.
Perhaps because there are so many people trying to limit the rights of how someone can freely practice their religion?
I don't have problems with other faiths getting the opportunity for equal representation. But this debate always involves Satanism because those pulling the strings know it irritates Christians. To think these groups honestly give a damn about Satanists getting equal representation is naive.
LOL, everythig ticks off those delicate christians. Maybe they should just shut up and stop proselytizing for a change.
Perhaps because there are so many people trying to limit the rights of how someone can freely practice their religion?
Well, if your religious practice is to corner and harass my child with proselytization, then yeah, I'm going to fight against you and your vile actions.
If Christians would stop kicking down doors into places they don't belong, there would be no cause for any other groups to follow through to present alternative points of view. Again, the Christians kick the door open and then get all pissy about who follows them through. If Christians would keep their proselytizing to themselves there would be no problem.
Christians typically aren't kicking new doors open; these are primarily Christians elements that have been in place for decades, if not longer. It didn't used to be taboo to read your Bible at school; today it can get you sent to the Principal's office. Wearing Rosary Beads to school can get you suspended. This is a problem with things that have always been accepted, and suddenly there are those who want to strip away people's 1st Amendment rights because they don't like religion, while cowardly hiding behind the guise of fairness to all faiths (but they seem to always prop up Satanism as the religion they're fighting for.)
The school board should be able to get around this by using the Supreme Court ruling on Greece NY city council meetings, The Court allowed Greece to limit opening invocations to religious organizations that have a congregation that meets regularly at an in town meeting facility.
NY town bans atheists from delivering invocations after Supreme Court prayer victory
According to the new policy, “[t]he invocation shall be voluntarily delivered by an appointed representative of an Assemblies List for the Town of Greece.” That list will be compiled by the clerk of the town board, and will consist of “assemblies with an established presence in the Town of Greece that regularly meet for the primary purpose of sharing a religious perspective.”
This policy dictates that no group lacking a “religious perspective” will be allowed onto the “Assemblies List,” which means that speakers who lack such perspectives will not be eligible to deliver opening invocations.
Perhaps because there are so many people trying to limit the rights of how someone can freely practice their religion?
Religion should not be practiced in public schools, period. What part of that do you not understand?
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I don't have problems with other faiths getting the opportunity for equal representation. But this debate always involves Satanism because those pulling the strings know it irritates Christians. To think these groups honestly give a damn about Satanists getting equal representation is naive.
The Satanic Temple is making the point that religion does not belong in the public sector. Christians are the only faith that continually seek to do so, so yes, Christians make themselves their target. I'm glad there is a group that follows the Evangelicals around and makes the point that they are not allowed to proselytize in public institutions. Good on them. And THAT is the real thing that "irritates" Christians.
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