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Old 09-30-2014, 02:39 PM
 
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Another blow to the warmers assertions that the drought is caused by AGW.

California drought and climate warming: Studies find no clear link - LA Times
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Old 09-30-2014, 03:05 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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I am gonna go out on a limb and say the OP probably didn't actually read the article because if he had, he probably wouldn't have posted it as trying to claim AGW isn't happening.

So not really what one would call a "blow," but it does help us better understand what might be going on with the dry weather in California.
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Old 09-30-2014, 03:10 PM
 
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I am gonna go out on a limb and say the OP probably didn't actually read the article because if he had, he probably wouldn't have posted it as trying to claim AGW isn't happening.

So not really what one would call a "blow," but it does help us better understand what might be going on with the dry weather in California.
Climate change happens.

But you can't tie AGW (bunk) or climate change to the drought in CA.

It heats and cools periodically.
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Old 09-30-2014, 03:12 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Exactly....Cherry picking at it's finest.

How global warming affected extreme weather events in 2013
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Old 09-30-2014, 03:16 PM
 
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Exactly....Cherry picking at it's finest.

How global warming affected extreme weather events in 2013
(sigh) There you go with theory again.

I deal in facts today, not some hollow BS from a year ago that is not proved.
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Old 09-30-2014, 03:22 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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(sigh) There you go with theory again.

I deal in facts today, not some hollow BS from a year ago that is not proved.
So you are telling me that everything you believe is fact, and whatever you don't is theory? I doubt that you even understand what scientific theory is.

The cherry picked item you posted was from the very same survey I posted....See below.

Explaining Extreme Events of 2013 from a Climate Perspective - American Meteorological Society
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Old 09-30-2014, 03:33 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Climate change happens.

But you can't tie AGW (bunk) or climate change to the drought in CA.

It heats and cools periodically.
If you say climate change happens, then you are also admitting global warming, which is climate change, can also happen.

This article doesn't really help you with what you are claiming...maybe you should read it.
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Old 09-30-2014, 03:38 PM
 
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So you are telling me that everything you believe is fact, and whatever you don't is theory? I doubt that you even understand what scientific theory is.

The cherry picked item you posted was from the very same survey I posted....See below.

Explaining Extreme Events of 2013 from a Climate Perspective - American Meteorological Society
Not facts. From your link.
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This BAMS special report presents assessments of how climate change MAY have affected the strength and likelihood of individual extreme events.
Postulated theory.

Not facts.
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Old 09-30-2014, 03:40 PM
 
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If you say climate change happens, then you are also admitting global warming, which is climate change, can also happen.

This article doesn't really help you with what you are claiming...maybe you should read it.
The earth heats and cools periodically. I have always said that.

AGW is bunk.
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Old 09-30-2014, 03:50 PM
 
Location: Long Island
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(sigh) There you go with theory again.

I deal in facts today, not some hollow BS from a year ago that is not proved.
From yesterday
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WASHINGTON - (AP) -- Scientists looking at 16 cases of wild weather around
the world last year see the fingerprints of man-made global warming on more than
half of them.

Researchers found that climate change increased the odds of nine extremes:
Heat waves in Australia, Europe, China, Japan and Korea, intense rain in parts
of the United States and India, and severe droughts in California and New
Zealand. The California drought, though, comes with an asterisk.
Scientists couldn't find a global warming link to an early South Dakota
blizzard, freak storms in Germany and the Pyrenees, heavy rain in Colorado,
southern and central Europe, and a cold British spring.


Organized by the U.S. National Oceanic and Atmospheric Administration,
researchers on Monday published 22 studies on 2013 climate extremes in a special
edition of the Bulletin of the American Meteorological Society.
Studies fault warming in much of 2013 wild weather - Newsday
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