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Old 10-13-2014, 04:31 AM
 
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"1) abolishing the traditional polling place and having every voter mailed a ballot and 2) establishing same-day registration, which allows someone to appear at a government office and register and vote on the same day without showing photo ID or any other verifiable evidence that establishes identity. If they register online a few days before, no human being ever has to show up to register or vote. A few keystrokes can create a voter and a “valid” ballot. ​Once a ballot cast under same-day registration is mixed in with others, there is no way to separate it out if the person who voted is later found ineligible. Other jurisdictions that have same-day registration, such as Washington, D.C., treat the vote as a provisional ballot pending verification. Colorado immediately counts the vote."

Braced for Voter Fraud in Colorado | National Review Online

With a win on the line in Colorado, Democrats hope to mail it in - The Washington Post

Will this new Democrat law encourage fraud? The liberal Denver Post fought against the law, saying that it would increase fraud.
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Old 10-13-2014, 04:47 AM
 
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Just shows states can not be trusted with such an important right as voting. Just like marriage, the states fail to protect the rights of the people.

We as Americans need a federal constitutional process that protects all voters and and the process no matter where the vote takes place.

A national voting standard which secures the vote in Maine as it does in Oregon.

State legislators should not be defining a constitutional right of the people.
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Old 10-13-2014, 04:52 AM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Absolute power, is always absolute.
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Old 10-13-2014, 04:58 AM
 
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"1) abolishing the traditional polling place and having every voter mailed a ballot and 2) establishing same-day registration, which allows someone to appear at a government office and register and vote on the same day without showing photo ID or any other verifiable evidence that establishes identity. If they register online a few days before, no human being ever has to show up to register or vote. A few keystrokes can create a voter and a “valid” ballot. ​Once a ballot cast under same-day registration is mixed in with others, there is no way to separate it out if the person who voted is later found ineligible. Other jurisdictions that have same-day registration, such as Washington, D.C., treat the vote as a provisional ballot pending verification. Colorado immediately counts the vote."

Braced for Voter Fraud in Colorado | National Review Online

With a win on the line in Colorado, Democrats hope to mail it in - The Washington Post

Will this new Democrat law encourage fraud? The liberal Denver Post fought against the law, saying that it would increase fraud.
That's Scary, I am sure that would meet Federal Standards and the security issues alone. I know this is the age of electronic Media, but there should all ways have voter Registration System that has redundant security measures for a clean vote.

I will have to see more details.
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Old 10-13-2014, 10:38 AM
 
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Voting by mail is wonderful. I haven't voted in person since 2000.
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Old 10-13-2014, 11:05 AM
 
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Voting by mail is wonderful. I haven't voted in person since 2000.
The new Colorado System is NOT about "voting by mail" ..... they have done that for years. It's about this new (and very strange) "Honor System Voting". Registering to vote with ZERO Identification is just wrong. I could show up in Colorado and vote under that criteria. Any illegal worker (or non worker) can vote. How can anyone support this sort of thing? The Democrats (and Governor Hick) not only supported it, they forced it on the Citizens of Colorado AFTER they had rejected it in a referendum.

Braced for Voter Fraud in Colorado
A new election law leaves the door wide open for abuse in hotly contested races.


The law, known as House Bill 1303, makes Colorado the only state in the country to combine two radical changes in election law: 1) abolishing the traditional polling place and having every voter mailed a ballot and 2) establishing same-day registration, which allows someone to appear at a government office and register and vote on the same day without showing photo ID or any other verifiable evidence that establishes identity. If they register online a few days before, no human being ever has to show up to register or vote. A few keystrokes can create a voter and a “valid” ballot. ​Once a ballot cast under same-day registration is mixed in with others, there is no way to separate it out if the person who voted is later found ineligible.

Even worse - they can pay people to go from House to House and collect the ballots to turn in to the County Clerk. Nobody has to prove identity at any part of the process. Ballots can be destroyed and nobody would be able to track that. This type of voting system was [b]Rejected by Colorado Voters on a referendum by over 60% ..... none of that mattered to the Legislature that was totally controlled by the Democrats. Polling in Colorado is not taking this new "honor system" of voting into the equation.
Anything could happen - when the integrity of the election process is suspect (and it certainly is now) then our entire system could crumble.

Williams, the El Paso County clerk, warns that the law “takes us back to the corruption of 19th-century Tammany Hall” and will reduce public confidence in the integrity of the balloting. Having voting conducted on an “honor system” is one thing, but Colorado’s law actually creates incentives for mischief that would test the honor of many campaign workers.
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Old 10-13-2014, 11:13 AM
 
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The new Colorado System is NOT about "voting by mail" ..... they have done that for years. It's about this new (and very strange) "Honor System Voting". Registering to vote with ZERO Identification is just wrong. I could show up in Colorado and vote under that criteria. Any illegal worker (or non worker) can vote. How can anyone support this sort of thing? The Democrats (and Governor Hick) not only supported it, they forced it on the Citizens of Colorado AFTER they had rejected it in a referendum.
What are you talking about? Whether you're registering a year before an election or the day of, you have to provide the same documentation in order to be registered.
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Old 10-13-2014, 11:19 AM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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Just shows states can not be trusted with such an important right as voting. Just like marriage, the states fail to protect the rights of the people.

We as Americans need a federal constitutional process that protects all voters and and the process no matter where the vote takes place.

A national voting standard which secures the vote in Maine as it does in Oregon.

State legislators should not be defining a constitutional right of the people.
I hate to tell you this, but the US Constitution "neither defines nor guarantees" your right to vote. The US Constitution leaves it up to the states to define who may vote.

Some people, and I am certainly one of them, would support a constitutional amendment on this subject.

Time for a 'Right to Vote' Constitutional Amendment | The Nation
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/29/op...vote.html?_r=0
Americans Have No Constitutional 'Right' to Vote
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Old 10-13-2014, 11:33 AM
 
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I hate to tell you this, but the US Constitution "neither defines nor guarantees" your right to vote. The US Constitution leaves it up to the states to define who may vote.

Some people, and I am certainly one of them, would support a constitutional amendment on this subject.

Time for a 'Right to Vote' Constitutional Amendment | The Nation
http://www.nytimes.com/2012/08/29/op...vote.html?_r=0
Americans Have No Constitutional 'Right' to Vote
The Supreme Court has held that the right to vote is a fundamental right protected by the Constitution.
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Old 10-13-2014, 11:34 AM
 
Location: Tyler, TX
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Colorado, 2016: First state to have more votes cast than it has residents.
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