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Not surprised to see uninformed posts about "freedoms" being taken away by this. Do people read anymore? Obviously not. Why read when we have Fox News? Murica'!
You might as well tell everyone to stop using the roads because they are upset with taxes.
You could also tell everyone to shut their electricity off and make their own power, you know, cause it's not necessary.
Could tell everyone to stop using phones because they want to make a statement... They could always knock on someone's door instead.
All of which are simply not going to happen. The people do have power when the majority are on board with the idea, the thing is people are NOT willing to go through that trouble and companies feed off of that.
The only way Comcast or Time Warner will get knocked off of their thrones is if someone else comes by and knocks them off and this is why we must encourage competition and not give cable companies the power to squish others.
Like I said, if you don't want bandwidth management, then you're going to have to pay bigger prices.
Because the infrastructure to provide you that "unmanaged" bandwidth costs money - passed on to you in the form of higher prices.
don't confuse net neutrality with bandwidth management.
1 - its not an issue. Look at any tech site, and you will find the real story is that data rates are falling like computers. . and that infrastructure to support data is cheap
2 - what really happening is . . .a pretend issue. So these companies are selling you 50mbs internet or whatever. Your lucky to get 25mpbs. And these customers all want netflix, its the most popular. Now that is the customers decision right? you give me 50mbs I should be able to spend it how I want? you promise me 50mbs. . you should have the infrastructure to deliver?
nope - because Netflix competes with the ISP for video. . .so they are going to either 1 - not build out to support their customer needs 2- de-priortize traffic from netflix 3 - all of the above. .
its a scam. Its not about congestion. Its about not wanting to be a dumb pipe and trying to throw up roadblocks to competition.
don't confuse net neutrality with bandwidth management.
1 - its not an issue. Look at any tech site, and you will find the real story is that data rates are falling like computers. . and that infrastructure to support data is cheap
2 - what really happening is . . .a pretend issue. So these companies are selling you 50mbs internet or whatever. Your lucky to get 25mpbs. And these customers all want netflix, its the most popular. Now that is the customers decision right? you give me 50mbs I should be able to spend it how I want? you promise me 50mbs. . you should have the infrastructure to deliver?
nope - because Netflix competes with the ISP for video. . .so they are going to either 1 - not build out to support their customer needs 2- de-priortize traffic from netflix 3 - all of the above. .
its a scam. Its not about congestion. Its about not wanting to be a dumb pipe and trying to throw up roadblocks to competition.
This situation is nothing like that at all.
It's about delivering a uniform product to all who use it. ISPs like Verizon want to provide better carrier speed to select customers who pay more than the rest of us.
The president is lobbying for the FCC to declare the ISPs as "Common Carriers" and insure there is no discrimination when delivering broadband to subscribers.
What, exactly is there not to like?
Of course, there will always be that element that projects paranoia and fear of any regulation, but that's par for the course.
I admittedly do not know much about this subject but on the face of it what is wrong with those who pay more getting more.
If I pay to stay at the Holiday Inn Express I don't expect the same amenities as staying at the Grand Floridian.
I know it is more complicated than that with questions such as is good fast internet service a right and others.
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I admittedly do not know much about this subject but on the face of it what is wrong with those who pay more getting more.
If I pay to stay at the Holiday Inn Express I don't expect the same amenities as staying at the Grand Floridian.
I know it is more complicated than that with questions such as is good fast internet service a right and others.
You're misunderstanding the issue and adding in additional irrelevant questions.
It's not a question of pay more get more. Literally no one is arguing against that.
At issue is whether say, a gigabyte of Netflix should be treated differently than a gigabyte of Spotify or a gigabyte or cat pictures. Comcast and Verizon and the other big providers say yes. The rest of the country says no.
This is literally every informed person and internet company in the country against a few giant corporations and a band of anti-government morons without a clue.
AT&T and Verizon have some pretty wide coverage for wireless broadband.
And then there is satellite as well.
Except when forced to, satellite is a non-starter. Latency makes it near-worthless for voice and wholly worthless for interactive apps - games and the like. It's influenced by weather, and it's expensive.
Except when forced to, satellite is a non-starter. Latency makes it near-worthless for voice and wholly worthless for interactive apps - games and the like. It's influenced by weather, and it's expensive.
You talking about latency with satellite or latency with cellular services?
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