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Old 11-14-2014, 10:11 PM
 
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I have done so.

I currently have a "new" bulb in one light socket and an incandescent bulb in another, in the same room.

I prefer the incandescent bulb.
Really, I find that interesting. I love the white light from the LED versus the yellow light from the incandescent. To each their own I guess.

 
Old 11-14-2014, 10:12 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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No, having obvious health implications is not a form of being obsolete. Now you're just trying to spin in order to not admit you made a poor analogy. Leaded gasoline being banned because it is dangerous to people's health is an obvious and necessary utilization of government powers. Banning the manufacture of incandescent light bulbs is an overreach because there is no obvious and necessary reason to ban them. Are they harming anyone? No. Are they harming the environment? No.

If you want to know what a proper analogy would be, it would be the equivalent of banning riding horses because it's obsolete as a form of transportation. Obvious overreach and an unnecessary use of government power. Can you ever admit when you're wrong?
It wouldn't have been banned if there wasn't a better form of gasoline, the analogy stands.
 
Old 11-14-2014, 10:13 PM
 
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If incandescent bulbs are so important to you, then just make your own. For the rest of us, it is an obsolete technology and we are okay with moving forward.
why are you so offended that someone might make a choice that differs from your own? Limiting choices typically results in moving backward.
And again if its such a great leap forward why is a law required? When the automobile was introduced, no one thought to ban the horse and buggy.
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I have never seen people so attached to such useless technology before.
Of course you are being obtuse, its not about the technology, its about having politicians make choices for us.
You do realize that lawmakers are mostly law school graduates with no background in lighting technology?
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Really, I find that interesting. I love the white light from the LED versus the yellow light from the incandescent. To each their own I guess.
if only that were the case. Can you believe some think we need a law?
 
Old 11-14-2014, 10:16 PM
 
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No one is forcing you to make them, I don't care if you have access to incandescent bulbs or not, they are obsolete and society has moved on from them, why can't you?
Who says there are obsolete?

The fact is that the incandescent bulbs I have are a limited supply because federal law says that they can no longer be manufactured.

True, no one is forcing me to make them, but self production is the only way I can now legally make the quantity of incandescent bulbs available to me higher, and I would not be able to sell them.

Furthermore, it would cost me more money to manufacture my own bulbs than it would to purchase them from someone who would like to manufacture them in bulk and sell them at a profit.

My question to you is why do you want to short circuit the pipeline between a willing buyer and seller for a product that is in demand?
 
Old 11-14-2014, 10:16 PM
 
Location: Meggett, SC
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It wouldn't have been banned if there wasn't a better form of gasoline, the analogy stands.
No, it doesn't stand. Unleaded gasoline was actually made because of the health implications of leaded gasoline (and ban). Leaded gasoline had to be phased out versus immediately banned only because it would have brought all personal transportation to a standstill otherwise. So, again, leaded gasoline was banned and phased out because of health implications. Unleaded gasoline was created in response to this finding of health implications. Then, the leaded gasoline underwent a gradual phaseout. Your analogy is poor. Nowhere in there does obsolescence enter into the issue. Learn to admit when you're wrong. It's healthy.
 
Old 11-14-2014, 10:17 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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why are you so offended that someone might make a choice that differs from your own? Limiting choices typically results in moving backward.
And again if its such a great leap forward why is a law required? When the automobile was introduced, no one thought to ban the horse and buggy.

Of course you are being obtuse, its not about the technology, its about having politicians make choices for us.
You do realize that lawmakers are mostly law school graduates with no background in lighting technology?
Again, I really don't care. You guys are literally arguing over an obsolete technology. This is like listening to people try to tell me they should be able to use 24K dial up internet still.

I am sure you will survive without incandescent bulbs.
 
Old 11-14-2014, 10:18 PM
 
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The eye roll meant that I thought your statement for 24 hour sunlight was ridiculous, much like this need to keep incandescent light bulbs around to appease a small group of people afraid of change.
Actually, we are more numerous than you might think.

If you think that change, in the effect of making criminals of people who manufacture and sell incandescent bulbs, is necessary, please tell us why.
 
Old 11-14-2014, 10:19 PM
 
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Again, I really don't care. You guys are literally arguing over an obsolete technology. This is like listening to people try to tell me they should be able to use 24K dial up internet still.

I am sure you will survive without incandescent bulbs.
Thanks for helping make my point, 24k dial up went away without any law required.
 
Old 11-14-2014, 10:20 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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No, it doesn't stand. Unleaded gasoline was actually made because of the health implications of leaded gasoline (and ban). Leaded gasoline had to be phased out versus immediately banned only because it would have brought all personal transportation to a standstill otherwise. So, again, leaded gasoline was banned and phased out because of health implications. Unleaded gasoline was created in response to this finding of health implications. Then, the leaded gasoline underwent a gradual phaseout. Your analogy is poor. Nowhere in there does obsolescence enter into the issue. Learn to admit when you're wrong. It's healthy.
Yeah, that is called obsolete technology, we found how to make unleaded fuel and got rid of leaded fuel. Incandescent bulbs have been made obsolete and the world will survive without them.
 
Old 11-14-2014, 10:22 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Actually, we are more numerous than you might think.

If you think that change, in the effect of making criminals of people who manufacture and sell incandescent bulbs, is necessary, please tell us why.
No one is trying to make you a criminal, if you think there is money to be made manufacturing in obsolete technology, then have fun with that.
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