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Old 11-14-2014, 11:06 PM
 
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You guys and your need to have obsolete light bulbs, it is just too funny. If you don't want to government to do anything, then move to a country with no government. Then your problems would be solved.
You still haven't explained exactly how incandescent bulbs are "obsolete" and who gets to make that judgment.

 
Old 11-14-2014, 11:07 PM
 
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Don't know how old you are so not sure if you remember how this went down. GE, primarily, had created the 'newer', 'better' light bulb, the CFL. They pumped tons of money, marketing, and energy into this light bulb that cost a lot more (yes, they used to be much more expensive) and thus would garner them greater profits. However, all of that marketing didn't work. People tried them and didn't like the 10 second delay for them to turn on or the harsh florescent light they cast and not to mention the cost. So, people weren't buying them. Along comes this bill. The bill, as we know, made the manufacturing of incandescent light bulbs illegal. GE, being one of the early adopters and biggest proponent of this bill stood to make a fortune because it would, effectively, make the biggest competitor in the light bulb industry - the incandescent - a non-issue. GE would be able to corner the market and all with the help of the US government. You should care this happened. You should care that businesses can do this. It's a bad law and should be repealed.
All I know is that LED'S has saved us lots of money and last way longer than incandescent. What does it matter what age I am. I just want to save money which I have with LED'S.
 
Old 11-14-2014, 11:07 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Have you ever driven a vehicle powered by leaded gasoline? Explain why leaded gasoline is obsolete.
Nope, I am not that old, it went obsolete before I was born I believe. Just like incandescent bulbs went obsolete before my future child is ever born.
 
Old 11-14-2014, 11:09 PM
 
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It was a bill that saw bipartisan support and was signed into law by Bush.
Does that automatically make it OK?

Why do you support that law? Why not instead allow freedom of choice?
 
Old 11-14-2014, 11:09 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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You still haven't explained exactly how incandescent bulbs are "obsolete" and who gets to make that judgment.
Well there is already a law that has decided that incandescent bulbs are obsolete, so I don't have to explain to you how they are obsolete or who gets to make that judgement because it has already been explained and decided back in 2007. Were you not paying attention back then when both parties were in favor of this?
 
Old 11-14-2014, 11:10 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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Does that automatically make it OK?

Why do you support that law? Why not instead allow freedom of choice?
I support this law because it limits the freedom of those who have some weird love for incandescent bulbs as if they somehow remind them of their youth or something.
 
Old 11-14-2014, 11:10 PM
 
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I know, right, what are you gonna do without the freedom to choose what different types of light bulbs you have to use.
You haven't yet explained to me why I should be not allowed to have that choice.
 
Old 11-14-2014, 11:12 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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You haven't yet explained to me why I should be not allowed to have that choice.
Because I said so, I really don't care that you guys want to use incandescent bulbs. If this was such an important issue, you guys should have made more noise against it back in 2007.
 
Old 11-14-2014, 11:13 PM
 
Location: Meggett, SC
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All I know is that LED'S has saved us lots of money and last way longer than incandescent. What does it matter what age I am. I just want to save money which I have with LED'S.
I don't disagree with the cost savings for LEDs and have a few myself. My issue with the law is not what I choose to use as light - whether it be LEDs or incandescents. It's a bad law because it was the US government creating a law to help a business kill competition. We should, as citizens, be against this type of behavior and our lawmakers should not be able to pass this kind of BS and then later say, 'oh well, too late now'. It was wrong to pass then and wrong to keep as law now.

I asked if you were young because I wasn't sure you were old enough to remember how this all came about.
 
Old 11-14-2014, 11:14 PM
 
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No one is persecuting you. It isn't illegal to own or make incandescent bulbs.
Nice try.

It is illegal to manufacture them with the intent to sell them.

Bulk incandescent bulb manufacturers and wholesalers are now in the same category as recreational cocaine traffickers.

Are you proud to support that being so?
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