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Old 12-10-2014, 06:19 PM
 
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Originally Posted by MissTerri
Where is the proof that the increase is due to a decrease in people vaccinating? Why doesn't anyone consider other known possible factors such as mutations? This "report" is very shallow. No substance whatsoever.
Indeed so.... This report is probably put out by BIG PHARMA who is losing $$$$$$ as more and more people WAKE UP!!!

 
Old 12-10-2014, 06:22 PM
 
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Indeed so.... This report is probably put out by BIG PHARMA who is losing $$$$$$ as more and more people WAKE UP!!!

Even better. It was put out by the Council of Foreign Relations.
 
Old 12-10-2014, 06:30 PM
 
Location: Upstate NY 🇺🇸
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Immigration from third world countries.
This is it in a nutshell. They're running after Americans with a needle while looking the other way at the diseases illegals are bringing here.

Enterovirus is in almost every state now, interestingly, like the bearded "children" were quietly sent to almost every state.

Chagas is another disease we're seeing here for the first time. It's rampant in Central American countries. Yet we Americans have to hear the president flap his gums about "protecting [illegal] immigrants." His job is to protect Americans.

Gimmeabreak.
 
Old 12-10-2014, 07:00 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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That's not splitting hairs. AFAIK, you are a nurse anesthetist, not a public health worker. I assume you mean by "a disease" a case of a disease. One.

"Outbreak" is defined this way:
"An epidemic is a disease that affects many people at the same time, such as the flu. The US Centers for Disease Control and Prevention's official definition of epidemic is: 'The occurrence of more cases of disease than expected in a given area or among a specific group of people over a particular period of time'. A pandemic is a very extensive epidemic, like a plague, that is prevalent in a country, continent, or the world. There is also the word endemic, which is a disease native to a people or region, which is regularly or constantly found among a people or specific region. The term outbreak describes the sudden rise in the incidence of a disease, especially a harmful one. An outbreak is characterized by a disease's bypassing of measures to control it. Often, the difference between these terms is determined by the percentage of deaths caused by the disease."
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More than one case of a disease.

I've worked in public health agencies for over 20 years; I am currently working in a pediatric office where communicable disease is a big part of our job, also well checks with immunizations. I subscribe to several professional publications that talk about this stuff. I've never seen numbers like this. Something's fishy. Where did these numbers come from? It doesn't seem like they came from the CDC. O Canada had a huge measles outbreak this year, 400 cases in British Columbia alone, with a population of 4.6 million, about the population of Kentucky.

I don't watch youtube. Anyone can make a youtube.
Yes you may work in public health but the author of that video trumps you in this topicl

Laurie Garrett - Council on Foreign Relations
 
Old 12-10-2014, 07:11 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Even better. It was put out by the Council of Foreign Relations.

True and they have compiled data.

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Since 2008, the Council on Foreign Relations has been collecting data and publishing weekly updates to an interactive map of vaccine-preventable diseases, and the map is now robust, dense with six years of data. One terrible truth stands out: Misinformation and rumors from just one persuasive voice, delivered effectively, can derail entire immunization campaigns and persuade millions of parents to shun vaccinations for their children.
Vaccine ignorance -- deadly and contagious - LA Times
 
Old 12-10-2014, 07:12 PM
 
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Yes you may work in public health but the author of that video trumps you in this topicl

Laurie Garrett - Council on Foreign Relations
Show us where Laurie Garrett got her numbers from. Can you do that?
 
Old 12-10-2014, 07:13 PM
 
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True and they have compiled data.
Where is it?


Propaganda.
 
Old 12-10-2014, 07:21 PM
 
Location: Midwest
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Show us where Laurie Garrett got her numbers from. Can you do that?
Probably from here: FastStats - Infectious Disease

or here: http://wonder.cdc.gov/mmwr/mmwrmorb.asp
 
Old 12-10-2014, 07:23 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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I too would like to see her raw data. And you can be sure she said " North America" and not "The US" for a reason. It's ironic that a couple of you were making fun of the US vs Canada when you assume.
 
Old 12-10-2014, 07:24 PM
 
Location: Foot of the Rockies
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Probably from here: FastStats - Infectious Disease
I posted that link a while back. It doesn't say that.
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