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Old 12-26-2014, 03:55 PM
 
Location: Ohio
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The people were not asked if torture was justified:

A majority of Americans think that the harsh interrogation techniques used on terrorism suspects after the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks were justified.

The author of the article is just spinning people's answers and the questions to fit his own views.
Excellent.

Whatever you're drinking, you need to give it to others so that they can think critically, like you.

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The Senate report on the CIA's interrogation of terrorist leaders after 9/11, has, once again, proven that the America left has no concept of the realities of the world we live in, and the American People OVERWHELMINGLY disagree with them:

New poll finds majority of Americans believe torture justified after 9/11 attacks
Okay, so, the vaunted Navy Seals are close enough to Osama bin Laden to stick their tongue down his throat and give him a big sloppy wet French Kiss, but they shoot him instead.

You'll joyfully interrogate and torture low level imps who know nothing, but you don't want to interrogate and torture the mastermind allegedly behind 9-11 and other terror attacks?

Apparently, some realities are more conceptually twisted than others....

Mircea
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Old 12-26-2014, 04:01 PM
 
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You'll joyfully interrogate and torture low level imps who know nothing, but you don't want to interrogate and torture the mastermind allegedly behind 9-11 and other terror attacks?

Apparently, some realities are more conceptually twisted than others....

Mircea



low level? what are you in the CIA now?

and the decision to kill Osama and not interrogate was Obama,....take up with him. I would of like to have taken Osama and given him a public trial with Judge Judy in central NYC and then electrocute him at the SUPER Bowl half time show and revive him and do it all over again!


Waterboarding for crucial information in extreme circumstances and keeping our enemies ALIVE and well fed with medical and dental coverage for life is a lot better treatment than what the 3,000 Americans that died in 9/11 and the others who are beheaded got ......don't you think Mircea?
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Old 12-26-2014, 04:13 PM
 
Location: Florida
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The Senate report on the CIA's interrogation of terrorist leaders after 9/11, has, once again, proven that the America left has no concept of the realities of the world we live in, and the American People OVERWHELMINGLY disagree with them:


New poll finds majority of Americans believe torture justified after 9/11 attacks
So, everyone who supports torture is 'right' and everyone who disapproves torture is 'left'. This would mean Reagan and Washington were leftists.
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Old 12-26-2014, 04:22 PM
 
Location: Central Ohio
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The left you say?
“Ratification of the Convention by the United States,†Reagan continued, “will clearly express United States opposition to torture, an abhorrent practice unfortunately prevalent in the world today"-Ronald Reagan on the U.S. ratification of the international Convention Against Torture, which he signed in 1988
What exactly is torture?

Is it a little water in the nose?

Is torture being made to wear woman's panties on top of your head?

What exactly is it we did that some people claim is torture?
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Old 12-26-2014, 04:23 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Many Americans including this one think that "torture" implies more than splashing a little water on someone's face or making them stand naked in a corner. As long as a prisoner still has his toes, fingers, ears, eyes, tongue and genitalia he has not been tortured.
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Old 12-26-2014, 04:24 PM
 
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low level? what are you in the CIA now?

and the decision to kill Osama and not interrogate was Obama,....take up with him. I would of like to have taken Osama and given him a public trial with Judge Judy in central NYC and then electrocute him at the SUPER Bowl half time show and revive him and do it all over again!


Waterboarding for crucial information in extreme circumstances and keeping our enemies ALIVE and well fed with medical and dental coverage for life is a lot better treatment than what the 3,000 Americans that died in 9/11 and the others who are beheaded got ......don't you think Mircea?
I hope you never try to teach your children that "two wrongs don't make a right". Sad to say but for too many the only law that matters in the "rule of law" is the law of the jungle. So much for St. Ronnie's "shining city on the hill" Sadly when the USA's principles were put to the test, most of those in positions of power seemed to say "Principles? What principles?" and thus failed the test utterly.
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Old 12-26-2014, 04:43 PM
 
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Disgusting
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Old 12-26-2014, 04:55 PM
 
Location: St. Louis
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The Senate report on the CIA's interrogation of terrorist leaders after 9/11, has, once again, proven that the America left has no concept of the realities of the world we live in, and the American People OVERWHELMINGLY disagree with them:


New poll finds majority of Americans believe torture justified after 9/11 attacks
You bet and I don't even think it was torture.
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Old 12-26-2014, 04:58 PM
 
Location: St. Louis
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What exactly is torture?

Is it a little water in the nose?

Is torture being made to wear woman's panties on top of your head?

What exactly is it we did that some people claim is torture?
Yes, if one wants to they can read about real torture like so many american pow's suffered at the hands of the north vietnamise or what the japs did to our soldiers like the new movie out.
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Old 12-26-2014, 05:01 PM
 
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I hope you never try to teach your children that "two wrongs don't make a right". Sad to say but for too many the only law that matters in the "rule of law" is the law of the jungle. So much for St. Ronnie's "shining city on the hill" Sadly when the USA's principles were put to the test, most of those in positions of power seemed to say "Principles? What principles?" and thus failed the test utterly.



please, when my children are old enough I will explain to them that war is not the same thing as civilian life. To save Americans lives during war you have to do extreme things but since you are not in charge of the security of our nation in extreme circumstances you don't have a clue.

If we based your holy moral rules on everything then we should have charged Truman and most of our generals for dropping 2 A bombs in Japan to end the war and save Americans lives, since your rule is "2 WRONGS DON'T MAKE IT A RIGHT" crap!

We also should have charged Churchill for war crimes for bombing Germany and killing civilians to make Germany surrender if we go by your standards of "2 wrongs don't make it a right"......we are at war against an enemy that don't play by any rules, you can't compromise with, you can't make a deal with that wants to kill every American and see the destruction of our country and you biatch and moan because our CIA water boarded a few leaders to get intel to save Americans lives?


The purpose of war is to destroy your enemy or make them quit by force......if you want to find a principle in that and put our nation at a disadvantage against our enemies well thank God you and your kind are not in charge of our security and never will be.

The CIA has been doing secret tactics for decades to defend our country against the dangerous of the world. The security of our nation is a dirty business. Let the professionals at the CIA and Pentagon handle and quit your whining! NO Jihadist prisoner have died in our custody.

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