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I think Nazi Germany was a perfect confluence for the atrocities that took place. I see many of the same ingredients at work around the world today.
If he did, it wasn't a public speech, it would have been in a "National Socialist political strategy meeting". Though he might have said it while complaining about the totalitarian state of the Soviet Union, or in complaining about Jewish control of international finance, media, politics, etc.
With that said, Hitler wasn't evil. He was just your typical statist/racist/warmonger with an obsession for territorial expansion. History is full of these kinds of men. Not just world history, but American history.
Yes, he wanted to round-up, deport, or kill the inhabitants of the lands he was stealing. And yes, he had no issue with taking a certain racial/ethnic group and making them into second-class citizens or slaves. Yes, he passed laws prohibiting interracial/interethnic marriage because some groups were seen as "inferior". But if you know the history of America in regards to the Native-Americans, things like Sherman's "final solution", the trail of tears, slavery, miscegenation laws, and even "forced sterilization(IE Eugenics, which continued into the 1960's)". Then pretty much everyone for the first 100 years of America was an evil scumbag. Including our presidents, Congressmen, Judges, etc.
I mean, go read the Supreme Court's decision in "Dred Scott".
I'm tired of this weird obsession with Hitler. He was a bumbling idiot who lost a World War because he didn't trust his Generals, because many weren't Nazi's. And many tried to assassinate him. One of those generals was Erwin "The desert fox" Rommel, who was a Nazi war hero.
Regardless, Hitler would have never been known for absolutely anything had it not been for World War 1. Especially had it not been for the treatment of Germany after WW1.
I often say, had it not been for France's occupation of the Ruhr, there never would have been a WW2.
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What are you asking exactly?
I think Nazi Germany was a perfect confluence for the atrocities that took place. I see many of the same ingredients at work around the world today.
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Can someone find a RELIABLE NEUTRAL source for this?
Supposedly from Mein Kampf but Ive seen several quote from non-neutral sites that this is not real.
I'd agree with the 'perfect confluence' that led to the events of Nazi Germany. And that it's a bit difficult to determine just quite what it is that you're seeking to understand.
Germany was in desperate times with the constraints of post WWI, economic depression, and a changing society and world. In the book 'Inside the Third Reich', Albert Speer tells us how Hitler rose to power and described some of the 'hypnotic' events that participated in that process. Speer became the architect of the buildings Hitler added to glorify his success as well as some of the rallies that captured the minds of those desperate people. I would recommend you read it.
Speer spent some time in Spandau prison for his participation in the Third Reich, as he was an ultimate insider. The book was released at about the time of his release from prison. I would take his recounting of events as fairly reliable.
LOL. I was just looking to find out if the speech was real. Both political sides are using this supposed speech for their talking points. It just seems a little too convenient.
People in desperate financial circumstances,
Give the people a scapegoat (someone to blame)
A leader who the people believe can legislate their prosperity,
Get rid of or demonize political opponents,
Use of force,
Take away the ability of people to defend themselves or rise up,
Mob mentality and Mob Rule,
Control speech,
Control the media
My grandpa was German. He has wondered why did the country which produced Goethe, Beethoven, Einstein, and Kant allow itself to be led to the precipice of self-destruction by a ragged collective of criminals.
I have some "theories", but would like to hear from other people's opinions as well
"Propaganda must not investigate the truth objectively and, in so far as it is favourable to the other side, present it according to the theoretical rules of justice; yet it must present only that aspect of the truth which is favourable to its own side. (...) The receptive powers of the masses are very restricted, and their understanding is feeble. On the other hand, they quickly forget. Such being the case, all effective propaganda must be confined to a few bare essentials and those must be expressed as far as possible in stereotyped formulas. These slogans should be persistently repeated until the very last individual has come to grasp the idea that has been put forward. (...) Every change that is made in the subject of a propagandist message must always emphasize the same conclusion. The leading slogan must of course be illustrated in many ways and from several angles, but in the end one must always return to the assertion of the same formula."
Hitler put these ideas into practice with the reestablishment of the Völkischer Beobachter, a daily newspaper published by the Nazi Party (NSDAP) from February 1925 on, whose circulation reached 26,175 in 1929. It was joined in 1927 by Joseph Goebbels's Der Angriff, another unabashedly and crudely propagandistic paper.
During most of the Nazis' time in opposition, their means of propaganda remained limited. With little access to mass media, the party continued to rely heavily on Hitler and a few others speaking at public meetings until 1929.
Not to say President Obama is Hitler, but his open free pen signing is unConstitutional, yet most people are not fighting him. President Obama is going to be in Boise, Idaho next week to convince the students tax hikes are good and how immigration would be good for our state.......at least this is the talk, why else would he come to a Red State, is he planning on running again?
President Obama seems to like to make speeches about nothing.....and ignore the crisis at hand. Boise has been preparing since Thursday for the President's arrival on Wednesday. China's money being spent well!
Can someone find a RELIABLE NEUTRAL source for this?
Supposedly from Mein Kampf but Ive seen several quote from non-neutral sites that this is not real.
Seems to me the book should be readily available. Why not just READ it and find out if the quote is there?
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