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Old 01-30-2015, 12:40 PM
 
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Huckabee has nothing better to do than make headlines for himself regarding....swearing at work? HORRORS! Seriously, he believes this is some sort of raging epidemic that needs to be dealth with? Where did this even come from exactly? People swear, sometimes a lot sometimes not. Big deal. Perhaps he should put on his big boy pants & worry about things that actually matter. What a maroon.

 
Old 01-30-2015, 12:48 PM
 
Location: San Antonio Texas
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I don't necessarily agree with "liberalism" as the culprit here--I think the idiocy of political correctness has adherents across the political spectrum--but I do think this kind of authoritarianism has incremental dangers in regards to personal freedom.

Several years age, Alan Dershowitz wrote an article on sexual harassment law. He pointed out that sexual harassment in the work place could be claimed due to one egregious event (sexual touching, for example)--or--due to the cumulative effect of several minor events, none of which in and of themselves would constitute sexual harassment.

Ultimately, his point was that companies have clamped-down on free expression within the workplace because, while a statement or action made by one employee may fall short of constituting sexual harassment, such statements or actions made by several different employees independently of one another, may constitute sexual harassment through the notion of a "pervasive atmosphere".

The unfortunate result is that every individual is held to a standard designed to avoid giving offense to the least tolerant among us.
One example that comes to mind are restaurants. I often see these kids with all of these nasty, unhealthy tattoos and piercings, yet they still hire them on as is ppl enjoy viewing their tastelessness. Even cooks are allowed to wear nets on their beards, whereas cooks would never have worn beards in years past in that role.
 
Old 01-30-2015, 12:53 PM
 
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He's entitled to his speech and opinion, but something about Mike Huckabee has always rubbed me the wrong way. If one day he is caught with a stash of porn that'd make a Japanese person blush I wouldn't be surprised.
 
Old 01-30-2015, 01:14 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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I'm younger than that age group, and I'm remembering the "swear jar" we had in every classroom of the business college I attended. You dropped any of the "minor" swear words (sh**, God da**it, etc.) you paid a quarter. The f bomb? That was 50 cents. Back then, not only did that school expect you to perfect your job skills, they emphasized how graduates should talk and conduct themselves in the work
place. We actually had a mandatory "charm course" (for those of you who haven't heard this term, it was basically a class to turn sloppy teenagers into professional polished young women in the work force). This was in 1979. I remember the lecture our instructor gave us on profanity...Miss Nancy would agree with Mike Huckabee. I do, too.

I can hear the snickers and snide comments out there.
I come from modest means. In the 70's my mother sent me to The Sears Charm School to learn how to behave like a young lady. I was taught how to walk, pivot and wave like Miss America. Tear a piece of bread instead of biting off a hunk of a dinner roll. Leaving the used napkin on my chair. Expecting the men to rise when I left the table to" powder my nose". How to wait for a man to open a door. You know, the important stuff.

So there I was learning critical pageant skills while most of my peers were getting zonked out on pot, downers, uppers, and LSD because it felt good to do so. Mama never knew how lucky she was to have a kid, who chose to by-pass the whole deal.

I DK why people give language so much power over them. The only thing any of us control is our own reaction, especially to things we don't control.
 
Old 01-30-2015, 01:28 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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We have a strict policy against profanity at my workplace. I work for a large (F-500) company in a blue collar, union job. Thirty years ago it would have been laughable to enforce such a policy on blue collar workers, but that's the world we live in now. I personally was once threatened with discipline by a junior manager over my use of a single profanity.

Ironically, the policy came about not from any ministers (e.g. Huckabee) hanging around, but from 30 years of trial lawyers, lawsuits over hurt feelings, and political correctness. In other words, 30 years of liberalism.
I posted this before. I am unaware of a law that makes the use of profanity illegal. I worked in an industry that was known for F- speak, particularly as an adjective. Someone once made an issue of the hostile work environment.

A meeting with outside labor attorneys made it clear that when F- speak is the norm and no one individual was being targeted, there was no issue. The bill for the meeting at the time was several $ thousands. I suspect this is why many companies have made " no profanity" rules. Perhaps there are laws unique to some states.

Just curious why it was necessary to point out that the manager was junior?
 
Old 01-30-2015, 01:28 PM
 
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It's always been frowned upon and certainly never considered acceptable to swear in the jobs I've held.

What kind of job do some of you have that no one cares that you look completely unprofessional at work?
I train parrots to say, "F*** you!"
 
Old 01-30-2015, 01:34 PM
 
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I am surprised she does take it for what most would think if hearing that in common areas of business. Obviously she felt she need to not seriously defined such that might offend others. Where I worked it would not be tolerated.I was embarassed for the president and the nation when I heard Biden say it was a big F deal to Obama on national TV. FOX and others made comments about it then. Can dish it out but not take it ;is now I see it.
 
Old 01-30-2015, 01:39 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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The unfortunate result is that every individual is held to a standard designed to avoid giving offense to the least tolerant among us.
What seems to be missing is the personal responsibility of not taking offence.

Like the smoking issue , reactions to profanity, trend bipartisan.

Those who work with the general public, in any capacity, learn rather quickly that they have no control over the stuff that comes out of people's mouths.
 
Old 01-30-2015, 01:48 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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One example that comes to mind are restaurants. I often see these kids with all of these nasty, unhealthy tattoos and piercings, yet they still hire them on as is ppl enjoy viewing their tastelessness. Even cooks are allowed to wear nets on their beards, whereas cooks would never have worn beards in years past in that role.
My first official job was at Red Barn, a fast food place. The guy behind the grill trended hippy, had long hair, a beard and wore a net on it. This happened in the 70's. Maybe he went on to becoming a Congressman. Maybe not.

I have seen MDs with tats. It's an age thing.

Not my thing. No reason to take offence.
 
Old 01-30-2015, 01:50 PM
 
Location: Barrington
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i train parrots to say, "f*** you!"
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