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View Poll Results: I have the right to bring back eradicated diseases using my kids
Yes 5 13.89%
No 31 86.11%
Voters: 36. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 01-30-2015, 11:11 AM
 
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So? Vaccination diminishes or even eradicates the possibility that you will become a vector in an outbreak, regardless of patient zero's ethnicity or place of birth.
"Vector" is a derogatory term used to describe subhuman life forms.

Humans are hosts and hostesses!

 
Old 01-30-2015, 11:12 AM
 
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Whether it's an Onion article or night, there are a scary amount of parents who actually think this way (save for the final sentence). I've met several of these self-proclaimed vaccine experts, sadly.

I suppose it's a combination of the younger generations having little exposure to outbreaks such as polio, mixed with a concern for their children (they don't want to see them in any discomfort, which includes shots or vaccinations at the doctor). People don't appreciate things when they're going right, which includes disease prevention. And of course, just plain stupid.
 
Old 01-30-2015, 11:12 AM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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HyperVocal

As a mother, I put my parenting decisions above all else. Nobody knows my son better than me, and the choices I make about how to care for him are no one’s business but my own. So, when other people tell me how they think I should be raising my child, I simply can’t tolerate it. Regardless of what anyone else thinks, I fully stand behind my choices as a mom, including my choice not to vaccinate my son, because it is my fundamental right as a parent to decide which eradicated diseases come roaring back.


Do do parents have the right to bring back polio, small pox, and measles from eradication?



I do not mind my kids getting vaccinated, but not in the 1st 2 years of life, especially when my kids were stay at home and not in daycare. my kids got their required vaccs at age 2+
 
Old 01-30-2015, 11:19 AM
 
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*shrug* sooner or later a big ole' wave of disease is going to kill off or maim enough anti-vaxxers to turn the tide on the issue.

The main gist of the vaccine issue is that they aren't perfect and they can have side-effects, but the alternative is much much worse.

So you have people sitting around attributing every evil they can to vaccinations while not having to stare the alternative in the face because most everyone else is vaccinated.

But eventually, that will change.
 
Old 01-30-2015, 11:19 AM
 
Location: The analog world
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"Vector" is a derogatory term used to describe subhuman life forms.

Humans are hosts and hostesses!
Derogatory? I think that's a bit of an overstatement, but you correctly pointed out my error in terminology. I will keep the difference in mind for future posts.
 
Old 01-30-2015, 11:22 AM
 
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Anti-vaxxers (aka idiots) are across the political spectrum.
Yep, there are a few main groups:

Religious healer types
all-natural types (same thing different diety)
conspiracy anti-corporate types

Sometimes there are blends but those are the ones that always post to the anti-vax threads here.
 
Old 01-30-2015, 11:24 AM
 
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"Vector" is a derogatory term used to describe subhuman life forms.

Humans are hosts and hostesses!
Don't put your gender-centric labels on us....they're offensive and derogatory.
 
Old 01-30-2015, 11:25 AM
 
Location: The analog world
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Yep, there are a few main groups:

Religious healer types
all-natural types (same thing different diety)
conspiracy anti-corporate types

Sometimes there are blends but those are the ones that always post to the anti-vax threads here.
Vaccine resistance is one of those unusual issues where extremists on either side of the political spectrum overlap.
 
Old 01-30-2015, 12:42 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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Not all vaccinations work on everyone and some people can't be vaccinated due to actual medical reasons.
This is the crux isn't it. I'd wondered... the "some people can't be vaccinated". My precious child can't be vaccinated so everyone else's child better be... I'm not buying it. When an entire classroom comes down with measles because of one unvaccinated child, and all these parents want to take the unvaccinated child's parents out behind the schoolhouse and shoot them, I want to ask... WTF... if your child is vaccinated and falls ill.... shouldn't you be going after the pharmaceutical company that made a lousy product? How does this always come down to everybody (except me or mine) should be vaccinated!!! I really need to understand this. I had planned to start a thread about it actually but it seems like it is a hot topic today. So, help a brother out. Tell me why it is so vitally important that everybody else should vaccinate their children and themselves, and what makes you special that you shouldn't. I.e. what actual medical conditions make vaccination unwise.

H
 
Old 01-30-2015, 12:47 PM
 
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This is the crux isn't it. I'd wondered... the "some people can't be vaccinated". My precious child can't be vaccinated so everyone else's child better be... I'm not buying it. When an entire classroom comes down with measles because of one unvaccinated child, and all these parents want to take the unvaccinated child's parents out behind the schoolhouse and shoot them, I want to ask... WTF... if your child is vaccinated and falls ill.... shouldn't you be going after the pharmaceutical company that made a lousy product? How does this always come down to everybody (except me or mine) should be vaccinated!!! I really need to understand this. I had planned to start a thread about it actually but it seems like it is a hot topic today. So, help a brother out. Tell me why it is so vitally important that everybody else should vaccinate their children and themselves, and what makes you special that you shouldn't. I.e. what actual medical conditions make vaccination unwise.

H

Are you banning grandma and grandpa from seeing your baby if they haven't gotten MMR vaccinations? How about Pertussis? How about Shingles vax? How about the FLU SHOT?

Send me a picture, or SCIPE. Will your precious contract a deadly disease from that too?
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