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Old 02-03-2015, 04:04 AM
 
Location: somewhere in the woods
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Actually the burden is on you to prove it....You made the original claim.



Climate was HOTTER in Roman, medieval times than now: Study
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Old 02-03-2015, 04:12 AM
 
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I don't believe in any pole that says they support gov. action. As the American treasure said, there are lies damned lies and statistics. How were the questions even presented. You can get a pole that says Americans support killing babys at two years old if the question is presented in a way to deceive and get the desired result. Many liberal nuts signed a petition to stop Women's Suffrage. So when you explain that what Gov. would actually do I bet dollars to doughnuts that the same signers will back away. Not to mention the Global warming crowd keeps getting egg on their face, Its getting hot its GW its getting cold its GW, when it fits GW its GW that is the cause when it does not its only weather and not climate and you don't know the difference. Its a heads you win tails I lose BS.
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Old 02-03-2015, 01:31 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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The Register is a climate denial propaganda site, and the author of this article, written in 2012, Lewis Page, has no qualifications in climate science and has zero credibility.
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“All the carbon-spewing machinery the human race now possesses - powerplants, transportation, boilers, the lot - can be kept running for its entire designed life without any significant ill effects on the planetary ecosystem....Lewis Page
Last week, on October 6th, The Guardian published a story under the headline "Sun's role in warming the planet may be overestimated, study finds.". A day later, tech website The Register published a climate story of its own, "Much of recent global warming actually caused by Sun," at a URL that ended "/solar_as_big_as_people/."

An outright denial of the study The Register misrepresents climate science | Science | The Guardian

I understand though that you have nothing to back up your false claims but opinions and falsified graphs.
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Old 02-03-2015, 01:44 PM
 
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The Register is a climate denial propaganda site, and the author of this article, written in 2012, Lewis Page, has no qualifications in climate science and has zero credibility.
Last week, on October 6th, The Guardian published a story under the headline "Sun's role in warming the planet may be overestimated, study finds.". A day later, tech website The Register published a climate story of its own, "Much of recent global warming actually caused by Sun," at a URL that ended "/solar_as_big_as_people/."

An outright denial of the study The Register misrepresents climate science | Science | The Guardian

I understand though that you have nothing to back up your false claims but opinions and falsified graphs.
A different link -

Climate in northern Europe reconstructed for the past 2,000 years: Cooling trend calculated precisely for the first time -- ScienceDaily
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Old 02-03-2015, 01:51 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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Northern Europe is not the entire globe.
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Old 02-03-2015, 07:12 PM
 
Location: Someplace Wonderful
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Northern Europe is not the entire globe.
Of course not.

The "global" climate is nothing more than an abstraction of many micro climates taken over time.

Which leads me to wonder why you people can speak with any authority about "climate change" ...
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Old 02-03-2015, 07:28 PM
 
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The Register is a climate denial propaganda site, and the author of this article, written in 2012, Lewis Page, has no qualifications in climate science and has zero credibility.
Last week, on October 6th, The Guardian published a story under the headline "Sun's role in warming the planet may be overestimated, study finds.". A day later, tech website The Register published a climate story of its own, "Much of recent global warming actually caused by Sun," at a URL that ended "/solar_as_big_as_people/."

An outright denial of the study The Register misrepresents climate science | Science | The Guardian

I understand though that you have nothing to back up your false claims but opinions and falsified graphs.
I've noticed that whenever someone posts anything that disproves something you say or provides a link when you demand one, your response is invariably to say the source has not credibility. That works a time or two, but it's getting old. Every single solitary shred of evidence that doesn't support your point of view can't all be fabricated. That pretty much puts you in the same area of having zero credibility as you try to claim about your opponents. You're starting to look like the boy who cried wolf once too often.
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Old 02-03-2015, 07:39 PM
 
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I've noticed that whenever someone posts anything that disproves something you say or provides a link when you demand one, your response is invariably to say the source has not credibility. That works a time or two, but it's getting old. Every single solitary shred of evidence that doesn't support your point of view can't all be fabricated. That pretty much puts you in the same area of having zero credibility as you try to claim about your opponents. You're starting to look like the boy who cried wolf once too often.
Or it's because the only places deniers can find anything to support their views is from science denial blogs, conspiracy websites and infotainment sources and is a load of crap.
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Old 02-03-2015, 07:50 PM
 
Location: Victoria, BC.
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I've noticed that whenever someone posts anything that disproves something you say or provides a link when you demand one, your response is invariably to say the source has not credibility. That works a time or two, but it's getting old. Every single solitary shred of evidence that doesn't support your point of view can't all be fabricated. That pretty much puts you in the same area of having zero credibility as you try to claim about your opponents. You're starting to look like the boy who cried wolf once too often.
I'll accept any any all evidence that has been peer reviewed by experts in the field of study....I do not consider opinions by a writer who has no expertise in climate science evidence....It is not evidence.
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Old 02-04-2015, 01:18 AM
 
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I'll accept any any all evidence that has been peer reviewed by experts in the field of study....I do not consider opinions by a writer who has no expertise in climate science evidence....It is not evidence.
These fake 'skeptics' (aka science deniers) don't seem to realise that ACC is mainstream science. It's like arguing with people who don't accept the theory of evolution and who keep providing links to answers-in-genesis or some other religious website as 'evidence' against evolution.
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