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Old 02-11-2015, 02:08 PM
 
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One thing I won't readily forgive is what Rupert Murdoch did to a decent newspaper like the WSJ.
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Old 02-11-2015, 03:40 PM
 
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Some other good articles on Moynihan's report. Liberals still can't deal with the realities of Moynihan's findings which is why 'inequality' will never be fully discussed except in terms of raising the minimum wage (which would put more small family-owned businesses out of business, and put more Americans out of work or keep Americans on a permanent part-time basis with little or no health care, etc.).

The Black Family: 40 Years of Lies by Kay S. Hymowitz, City Journal Summer 2005
Read through the megazillion words on class, income mobility, and poverty in the recent New York Times series "Class Matters" and you still won't grasp two of the most basic truths on the subject: 1. entrenched, multigenerational poverty is largely black; and 2. it is intricately intertwined with the collapse of the nuclear family in the inner city.

By now, these facts shouldn't be hard to grasp. Almost 70 percent of black children are born to single mothers. Those mothers are far more likely than married mothers to be poor, even after a post-welfare-reform decline in child poverty. They are also more likely to pass that poverty on to their children. Sophisticates often try to dodge the implications of this bleak reality by shrugging that single motherhood is an inescapable fact of modern life, affecting everyone from the bobo Murphy Browns to the ghetto "baby mamas." Not so; it is a largely low-income—and disproportionately black—phenomenon. The vast majority of higher-income women wait to have their children until they are married. The truth is that we are now a two-family nation, separate and unequal—one thriving and intact, and the other struggling, broken, and far too often African-American.

So why does the Times, like so many who rail against inequality, fall silent on the relation between poverty and single-parent families?
Was the Moynihan Report right? Sobering findings after 1965 study is revisited - The Washington Post

What the Left and Right Both Get Wrong About the Moynihan Report - The Atlantic

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One thing I won't readily forgive is what Rupert Murdoch did to a decent newspaper like the WSJ.
The WSJ is still one of the best papers in the nation.
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Old 02-11-2015, 03:54 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Generalizations about the ""black family" are derived from supreme ignorance. Stupid thread.
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Old 02-11-2015, 03:58 PM
 
Location: Berwick, Penna.
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"Progressives" are incapable of "forgiving" anyone for proving them wrong.
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Old 02-11-2015, 04:48 PM
 
Location: Chesterfield,Virginia
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I am an Obummer look-a-like and grew up when neighborhoods were segregated.

The best thing that could have ever happened was to leave things as they were!

Force the blacks to stand on their own.

Succeed or fail on your own merits!

LOOK at what we have now .. Trash talking, race baiters like Al Sharptongue and murder rates off the charts!
(Blacks are indeed a feral sort who kill at will)

Imagine .. Al Sharptongue .. confined to the other side of the tracks!

A black, well educated man or woman would have been welcomed to the civilized side of town.

Now we have What?

Murder rates beyond anything in the past.

Riots for imagined(or manufactured slights.)

Blacks who graduate and who can't string a whole sentence together .. unless that sentence is in ebonics.

I worked my way out of the slums sixty years ago.

Blacks today want to blame whitey for their problems and want to get 'paid' for being black!

The negro was hurt by the white (apologist) liberals and THAT is not debatable!

So .. There!

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Old 02-11-2015, 04:56 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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The OP questions why liberals won't forgive something that they aren't upset about. I read over the link and not sure I see this connection that the OP is trying to make.
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Old 02-11-2015, 05:03 PM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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If I really didn't want people to bother reading Moynihan's report I wouldn't have posted a link directly to it.


You can read locked WSJ articles on Google Chrome.
Im on Google Chrome and I cant read it.

Further more, im not going to speculate on why you decided to focus on one part of the study and not the majority(or all of it for that matter); but the fact remains that you didnt for what ever reason and it makes your credibility in this discussion look weak.
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Old 02-11-2015, 07:46 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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He certainly was prophetic and had a deep understanding of the situation. For all the gains made by individual blacks in the last 50 years, the group failing to keep up with other ethnic groups is largely due to the breakdown in the family imo.
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Old 02-11-2015, 08:11 PM
 
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He certainly was prophetic and had a deep understanding of the situation. For all the gains made by individual blacks in the last 50 years, the group failing to keep up with other ethnic groups is largely due to the breakdown in the family imo.
You don't need a family. Single women are more than capable of raising children without the help of males!
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Old 02-11-2015, 08:12 PM
 
Location: Chesterfield,Virginia
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You don't need a family. Single women are more than capable of raising children without the help of males!
Without the help of the government too?

You're dreaming!
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