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Old 02-12-2015, 12:40 PM
 
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So while conservatives seem to remain conservative (good or bad), there are some laws that don't seem as liberal as the politicians like to think they are. I've mentioned this in another thread but I want to create an individual discussion. Here is a couple:

California's 'yes means yes' sexual standard has liberals divided - LA Times

CA's yes means yes law was intended to combat sexual assault and rape by presenting consent and provide funding for state uni's to create guidelines in handling these cases. This means when both parties have sex while in a state of impairment, it's rape. How do you control someone's state of mind when they are impaired or in this situation? Also, giving colleges responsibility of handling these cases reminds me of the mishandling of the UVA rape case (if there was any to begin with) and the Rolling Stone.

Also, Maryland's ban on grain alcohol. Passed through the General Assembly where liberal Democrats rule, health excuse seems rather weak. Yes alcohol overall can be bad for your health, but doesn't exactly address any health issues.
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Old 02-12-2015, 12:59 PM
 
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Both seem like liberal laws to this conservative. Giving schools responsibility for investigating and prosecuting rape rather than the police and judicial system is extralegal on its face. Something liberals seem to favor (see Obama's immigration policies). Banning alcohol is a progressive policy (see Prohibition).
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Old 02-12-2015, 01:13 PM
 
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Giving schools responsibility for investigating and prosecuting rape rather than the police and judicial system is extralegal on its face.
That part I agree (with what you said), but the key part in that law is where they say having sex while drunk is in the same line as getting raped. That only makes sense if that person unconscious and one or more parties are taking advantage of him/her. This is just taking it one step further.

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Old 02-12-2015, 01:40 PM
 
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Not surprised that there hasn't been any response from liberals or progressives.
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Old 02-12-2015, 03:58 PM
 
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So..................ummmmm, two drunkoes end up boinkying, they are both guilty of rape????????

I could see this as being used mostly against men.
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Old 02-12-2015, 04:21 PM
 
Location: Madison, WI
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I guess it depends on what we're referring to as liberal and conservative. I tend to think of things as libertarian vs. authoritarian because that's what matters most IMO. I think both of those increase government control, which I oppose.
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Old 02-24-2015, 07:38 PM
 
Location: Georgia, on the Florida line, right above Tallahassee
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Beats me.
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Old 02-25-2015, 08:57 AM
 
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How about the keystone of Obamacare - the Individual Mandate?

That was the brainchild of the Heritage Foundation and was originally proposed in Congress by a group of Republican congressmen.
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Old 02-25-2015, 08:06 PM
 
Location: Laurentia
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I guess it depends on what we're referring to as liberal and conservative. I tend to think of things as libertarian vs. authoritarian because that's what matters most IMO. I think both of those increase government control, which I oppose.
You've got it; limited vs. total government (which maps to total vs. limited citizenry, respectively), is a far clearer political lens than left vs. right.
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