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View Poll Results: Do you agree with Obama 'not' identifying groups by their Religion even when everyone else does
Yes, I agree. People don't need to know the Religion of the Radicals or the people they kill 19 18.63%
No, People do need to know the religion of of the Radicals and the people they kill 67 65.69%
Doesn't matter either way 16 15.69%
Voters: 102. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 02-19-2015, 10:06 PM
 
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Obama's Father was Muslim which means he has no choice but to be Muslim and then he went to Muslim school when his Mother married and Indonesian man. Its seems like he favors Muslims over Christians even though he claims to be a Christian in order to get elected in the USA. I don't trust Obama.
I believe his father was an avowed Atheist, but I'm sure culturally Muslim. I'm sure it's no surprise to anyone that when he become politically active he started going to church. He's probably as Christian as many politicians, but only because that's what it takes to get elected.
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Old 02-19-2015, 10:11 PM
 
Location: Iowa, USA
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Obama's Father was Muslim which means he has no choice but to be Muslim and then he went to Muslim school when his Mother married and Indonesian man. Its seems like he favors Muslims over Christians even though he claims to be a Christian in order to get elected in the USA. I don't trust Obama.
It means he has no choice? According to who? The only people who think like that are people who actually buy into that crap. If Obama doesn't buy into it, which I've seen no evidence that the does, then he doesn't care if an old book says he can't leave. And since his dad wasn't exactly around, I can't imagine his fathers faith had much of an influence. And he may have gone to a Muslim school, but that doesn't actually mean anything. Muslims don't really hide their faith, so if Obama is a Muslim, he's not very good at it and certainly wouldn't be 'one of the bad ones' since the bad ones would probably kill him for not being open about his devotion to Allah.
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Old 02-19-2015, 10:32 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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It means he has no choice? According to who? The only people who think like that are people who actually buy into that crap. If Obama doesn't buy into it, which I've seen no evidence that the does, then he doesn't care if an old book says he can't leave. And since his dad wasn't exactly around, I can't imagine his fathers faith had much of an influence. And he may have gone to a Muslim school, but that doesn't actually mean anything. Muslims don't really hide their faith, so if Obama is a Muslim, he's not very good at it and certainly wouldn't be 'one of the bad ones' since the bad ones would probably kill him for not being open about his devotion to Allah.

I doubt you lived and worked in the middle East a few years like I did. Muslims believe that children become the religion of their Father if the Father is Muslim then they don't have the option of not becoming Muslim. Of course Obama's Father abandoned him and his Mother married another Muslim and Obama went to Muslim school.

I'm confused about what exactly Obama believes and he seems all over the place on religion. I believe he became a member of this ultra racist so called "Christian" Church probably due to his wife and it conveniently helped his political aspirations.

There's no doubting that Obama goes to great lengths not to offend Muslims beyond whereas the large majority of America realize the menace of that religion.
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Old 02-19-2015, 10:35 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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I doubt you lived and worked in the middle East a few years like I did. Muslims believe that children become the religion of their Father if the Father is Muslim then they don't have the option of not becoming Muslim. Of course Obama's Father abandoned him and his Mother married another Muslim and Obama went to Muslim school.

I'm confused about what exactly Obama believes and he seems all over the place on religion. I believe he became a member of this ultra racist so called "Christian" Church probably due to his wife and it conveniently helped his political aspirations.

There's no doubting that Obama goes to great lengths not to offend Muslims beyond whereas the large majority of America realize the menace of that religion.
The other thing I wanted to mention is Obama takes of the political correctness filter he uses for Muslims and doesn't hesitate to harshly criticize Christians today for the supposed acts of Christians 900 years ago. So it looks like he has chosen sides and is firmly on the Muslims on any religions battle.....but then he widely uses drones to kill Muslims....he is one very strange and confused individual I believe.
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Old 02-19-2015, 10:35 PM
 
Location: Iowa, USA
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I doubt you lived and worked in the middle East a few years like I did. Muslims believe that children become the religion of their Father if the Father is Muslim then they don't have the option of not becoming Muslim. Of course Obama's Father abandoned him and his Mother married another Muslim and Obama went to Muslim school.

I'm confused about what exactly Obama believes and he seems all over the place on religion. I believe he became a member of this ultra racist so called "Christian" Church probably due to his wife and it conveniently helped his political aspirations.

There's no doubting that Obama goes to great lengths not to offend Muslims beyond whereas the large majority of America realize the menace of that religion.
I'd argue all religions are mostly menacing.

Obama is probably not very religious, if he is at all. Growing up Muslim, he's seen the good in it. Having much of his adult life spent around Christians, he's seen the good in them too. It's a unique perspective that leaves him unsure and is probably keeping him from the most likely reality of both religions being entirely made up. But he can't come out an say that because most Americans view atheists/agnostics as the degenerates of society.
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Old 02-19-2015, 10:37 PM
 
Location: Iowa, USA
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The other thing I wanted to mention is Obama takes of the political correctness filter he uses for Muslims and doesn't hesitate to harshly criticize Christians today for the supposed acts of Christians 900 years ago. So it looks like he has chosen sides and is firmly on the Muslims on any religions battle.....but then he widely uses drones to kill Muslims....he is one very strange and confused individual I believe.
It's probably political. He's vocally anti war, but hasn't actually done anything to prevent a war.

I don't think he's siding with Muslims. I think he says he's going easy on them to keep the PC crowd happy, but he's not actually doing it.
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Old 02-19-2015, 10:41 PM
 
Location: Southern California
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Since there has been a lot of comments on this topic, I am adding a poll to see where CDers are on this topic.

Personally, I think think it makes Obama look foolish by him not identifying Radical elements in Islam as 'Radicals' or the Coptic Christians that were killed as 'Christian'.
I haven't been following the subject, but if he's not calling the parties involved for what they are, then, yeah, that's lame.

[2 + 2 really is 4]
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Old 02-19-2015, 10:48 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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I guess we could have expected this to become an issue to Radical Republicans who are still clutching at "Obama" straws. Now they want to correct how the President speaks. Desperate times for Desperate people.

Maybe we should do as they want, and each time some one is robbed, raped, given a DUI or arrested for any crime, we should identify them as "Christian" Robbers, Christian Rapists, or Atheist Drunks, or Baptist Terrorists, and so one. Evidently, to some of these clowns, Religion is required when describing Criminals.

If the ISIS Leader was apprehended, and sent to the Hague to stand trial, would he be tried for being a "Muslim Terrorist, or just a Terrorist? Would Islam be on trial or would the "Man" be on trial for crimes against Humanity, Genocide, and whatever else they could find.

Hey, I can understand the Republican frustration and the need to scrape the bottom of the barrels for some sort of dirt that can be smeared. You have tried so hard, since Obama too his first oath, to "get Him" and you never even got within miles of any success at all, I can understand the reasoning, but not the mentality. Makes the GOP look dumber than it already looks and pretty desperate. Try something else. This isn't working for you.
The intellectual dishonesty of President Obama and his apologists (including yourself) about this issue is simply breathtaking. The religion of common criminals is completely irrelevant to their crimes. No one is robbing Taco Bells in the name of the Roman Catholic Church while shouting "Hail Mary, Full of Grace" If they were, then their religion would be relevant and therefore newsworthy. Why are you so blind? ISIS, Al Qaeda, etc are committing their acts in the very name of Islam. It is central to the whole issue. If you cannot even bring yourself to name your enemy, then you have already lost. It's as if Obama were in charge of the Nuremberg Trials at the end of World War II, and not be able to bring himself to utter the word "Nazi". The persecution and deaths of 6 million Jews, along with countless Gays, Roma, and other "undesirables" would have just been random acts. The political and racial philosophy of National Socialism had nothing to do with it. That is the same mindset that Obama and his apologists are displaying. It is intellectual and moral cowardice and dishonesty of the highest order.
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Old 02-20-2015, 04:21 AM
 
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The poll questions are neutral, you either agree with it or not. I voiced my opinion that he is appearing to be a fool on this topic. I'll let the poll results speak for themselves. Looks like a whopping 2 people agreed with O on this one so far.



How is the poll biased? It's a straight forward yes or no? If it was biased I would have had it slanted as a positive for those picking one option over the other.
The questions are not neutral, no I have to disagree with the way the questions were formulated, they're totally biased against Muslims .

Your opinion is not as important, if you post a poll , keep the questions neutral which is not the case.
Therefore the results of this poll are biased and unfair to Muslims.
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Old 02-20-2015, 06:10 AM
 
Location: deafened by howls of 'racism!!!'
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The questions are not neutral, no I have to disagree with the way the questions were formulated, they're totally biased against Muslims .

Your opinion is not as important, if you post a poll , keep the questions neutral which is not the case.
Therefore the results of this poll are biased and unfair to Muslims.
you have yet to explain how they are biased.
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