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Old 03-11-2015, 09:46 AM
 
Location: In your head, rent free
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The Republican attacks on unions have only one purpose, to gut support for Democrats. That is it. Destroying the middle and working classes are a GOP side benefit. The dedication to evil by Republicans is fanatical and the consequences have been very sad for the United States.
When given a vote, the American people vote against mandatory union membership every time. People want the choice of not being in a union and union supporters hate giving workers a choice.

 
Old 03-11-2015, 09:57 AM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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When given a vote, the American people vote against mandatory union membership every time. People want the choice of not being in a union and union supporters hate giving workers a choice.
One major reason why Right to Work has been so slow to spread to the states that still don't have it is because not having Right to Work works so well to keep unions out. When a state does NOT have right to work the boss can warn the workers, "You let a damned union in here, and you give it the right to take money out of all of your paychecks, whether you want to sign up to be a union member or not." After hearing that, most workers don't want anything to do with a union in most instances. Where ever there is Right to Work, the boss can not truthfully say any such thing.
 
Old 03-11-2015, 09:57 AM
 
Location: Taos NM
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We've got 100 million workers in this country, about 6% of them are in a union... are you saying that the other 94% are freeloaders? Should all workers nationwide be paying fees to labor unions?
No, I'm talking about shop specific examples. So say your company of 400 employees has a union. They have bargained to make scheduling known for two weeks in advance and mandate that employees be given at least 9 hours off between shifts. All the workers benefit from this bargaining negotiation, yet if they do not have to pay in, then the costs all go onto the ones that do the bargaining, hence the union dissolves.
 
Old 03-11-2015, 09:58 AM
 
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When given a vote, the American people vote against mandatory union membership every time. People want the choice of not being in a union and union supporters hate giving workers a choice.
Why has it not been unanimously passed across the 50 states then. I just read from R. Freeman, a labor economist, that more people now than in the early 2000s and 1990s desire to be part of a union or some sort of collective bargaining setup.
 
Old 03-11-2015, 10:03 AM
 
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One major reason why Right to Work has been so slow to spread to the states that still don't have it is because not having Right to Work works so well to keep unions out. When a state does NOT have right to work the boss can warn the workers, "You let a damned union in here, and you give it the right to take money out of all of your paychecks, whether you want to sign up to be a union member or not." After hearing that, most workers don't want anything to do with a union in most instances. Where ever there is Right to Work, the boss can not truthfully say any such thing.
Why do you have a problem with someone telling the truth?
 
Old 03-11-2015, 10:04 AM
 
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No, I'm talking about shop specific examples. So say your company of 400 employees has a union. They have bargained to make scheduling known for two weeks in advance and mandate that employees be given at least 9 hours off between shifts. All the workers benefit from this bargaining negotiation, yet if they do not have to pay in, then the costs all go onto the ones that do the bargaining, hence the union dissolves.
If unions are as great as you make them sound why do you have to force people to join and pay in? Shouldn't people be happy with the union and be begging to join?
 
Old 03-11-2015, 10:05 AM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Why has it not been unanimously passed across the 50 states then. I just read from R. Freeman, a labor economist, that more people now than in the early 2000s and 1990s desire to be part of a union or some sort of collective bargaining setup.
Most large companies, such as Wal-Mart do a good job keeping unions out and not allowing things to reach the point where employees can vote on it. Wal-Mart is too scared the employees will vote YES to let a union in.
 
Old 03-11-2015, 10:06 AM
 
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Why has it not been unanimously passed across the 50 states then. I just read from R. Freeman, a labor economist, that more people now than in the early 2000s and 1990s desire to be part of a union or some sort of collective bargaining setup.
It hasn't been passed in all 50 states because labor unions give hundreds of millions of dollars a year to democrat politicians who in turn block right to work legislation.
 
Old 03-11-2015, 10:06 AM
 
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One major reason why Right to Work has been so slow to spread to the states that still don't have it is because not having Right to Work works so well to keep unions out. When a state does NOT have right to work the boss can warn the workers, "You let a damned union in here, and you give it the right to take money out of all of your paychecks, whether you want to sign up to be a union member or not." After hearing that, most workers don't want anything to do with a union in most instances. Where ever there is Right to Work, the boss can not truthfully say any such thing.
LOL, it's spreading slow because Democrats try to block such legislation whenever they can. Because they receive so much political money from the unions, they want the unions to always have the money available.
 
Old 03-11-2015, 10:08 AM
 
Location: Stillwater, Oklahoma
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Why do you have a problem with someone telling the truth?
I don't. All my concern is why should unions in Right to Work states be required to represent the free loaders when they want to file grievances? Maybe it's time for unions to seek changes in law, so they won't have to do this any more.
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