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Old 03-02-2015, 11:51 AM
 
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Are you kidding? We're talking about Texas. There are no DPs or civil unions here.
Texas - a state that requires students in sex-education classes be taught that homosexuality is "lifestyle", is an "unacceptable" lifestyle, and is illegal.

Texas, which in the 2000s still arrested and prosecuted gay people for having sex with other gay people in the privacy of their own homes - and only stopped when ordered to by the US Supreme Court in 2003. Gay sex still remains illegal under Texas law, even if the law is now unenforceable.

Texas, a state that not only bans gay people from civil marriage law, but also bans the conferring of any legal rights to gay couples under any heading - be it marriage, civil union, domestic partnership, etc.

Texas, a state where a Christian boss can fire a gay employee simply for being gay, but where it's illegal for a gay boss to fire a Christian employee simply for being Christian.

 
Old 03-02-2015, 12:06 PM
 
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Texas - a state that requires students in sex-education classes be taught that homosexuality is "lifestyle", is an "unacceptable" lifestyle, and is illegal.

Texas, which in the 2000s still arrested and prosecuted gay people for having sex with other gay people in the privacy of their own homes - and only stopped when ordered to by the US Supreme Court in 2003. Gay sex still remains illegal under Texas law, even if the law is now unenforceable.

Texas, a state that not only bans gay people from civil marriage law, but also bans the conferring of any legal rights to gay couples under any heading - be it marriage, civil union, domestic partnership, etc.

Texas, a state where a Christian boss can fire a gay employee simply for being gay, but where it's illegal for a gay boss to fire a Christian employee simply for being Christian.
The answer is simple.

Don't be gay in Texas
 
Old 03-02-2015, 12:46 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Originally Posted by Veneficus View Post
Marriage confers concrete legal privileges in regards to taxation, estate protection, spousal privilege in regards to testifying, and myriad other instances.

It can soundly be argued laws preventing people entering into the marriage contract deprive them of those protections above.

So it is not a right....

One doesn't need to ask for their rights.
It my have been a right long ago, but the day government took it over, it became a privilege you must ask for.

Until an amendment to the constitution specifically addressing marriage, the 10th amendment takes over.
 
Old 03-02-2015, 12:47 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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The answer is simple.

Don't be gay in Texas

That was awesome!
 
Old 03-02-2015, 12:47 PM
 
Location: Iowa, USA
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The answer is simple.

Don't be gay in Texas
Yeah, duh!

And don't be Jewish in Nazi Germany.

And don't be black in 1940s America.

And don't be smart in medieval Europe.

Simple solutions to simple problems!
 
Old 03-02-2015, 12:51 PM
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Location: Florida
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Personally I find the entire homosexual thing a disgusting perversion. Makes me want to vomit and for that I guess I am a bigot?
No. "Bigotry" requires allowing your personal feelings about homosexuality to affect the way you conduct yourself toward homosexuals in public. Incidentally, for completeness: "Hatred" requires parlaying your bigotry into deliberate action against homosexuals.

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The 14th Amendment doesn't protect rights because you have to ask for permission? What???????
In the reactionary mind, no one's rights are ever violated. It is part of a more generalized pattern of vacuous denial that fosters right-wing institutionalized bigotry.
 
Old 03-02-2015, 01:05 PM
 
Location: North Texas
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Paid someone else to bake it.

Still disgusting. Celebrating being bigots and denying other people their rights.
I didn't vote for that scumbag. Or Greg Abbott.
 
Old 03-02-2015, 01:15 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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Article 1 defines that everyone no matter what, is allowed the qualifications the Bill of Rights guarantees.
The Bill of Rights says nothing about Marriage. Contract Marriage is something created by government and men, to control others.
A sacred marriage is between you your lifemate and your god. You don't need a license or a preacher you just need each other.


There are many laws that prevent your and my happiness.
 
Old 03-02-2015, 01:16 PM
 
Location: The Republic of Texas
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I didn't vote for that scumbag. Or Greg Abbott.


I did.
 
Old 03-02-2015, 01:23 PM
 
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Article 1 defines that everyone no matter what, is allowed the qualifications the Bill of Rights guarantees.
The Bill of Rights says nothing about Marriage. Contract Marriage is something created by government and men, to control others.
And as long as the Government (state or federal) provides Contract Marriage to hetero couples and denies same-sex unions, it is violating the 14th amendment. The right being violated is equal treatment under the law, a precedent set in Loving v. Virginia.
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A sacred marriage is between you your lifemate and your god. You don't need a license or a preacher you just need each other.


There are many laws that prevent your and my happiness.
So we agree that homosexual sacred marriage already exists, as quite a few faiths and denominations do sanction same-sex marriages. So if it isn't a religious issue, why deny equal treament under the law regarding civil marriages? Seems that you would be for it, not against...

-NoCapo
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