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Old 03-04-2015, 09:51 PM
 
Location: Missouri
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How I wish I had wealth to be stolen.
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Old 03-04-2015, 09:58 PM
 
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And since you are guessing it's tax season you must be one of those 47%ers who don't pay taxes.
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Quite the assumption, and an inaccurate one.
An accurate assumption is urbanlife78 benefits for the taxes paid by others, and never stops to mock the people who make his existence possible.
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Old 03-04-2015, 10:06 PM
 
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And since you are guessing it's tax season you must be one of those 47%ers who don't pay taxes.
And you must be one of those elitist righties who thinks that the income tax is the only tax that counts. Ever hear of sales tax? property tax? payroll tax? auto excise tax? Those taxes on your cable bill that your cable company passes along to you? You gonna try and tell me 47% of the population has no job, doesn't drive, doesn't have cable, and never buys anything?
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Old 03-04-2015, 11:08 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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An accurate assumption is urbanlife78 benefits for the taxes paid by others, and never stops to mock the people who make his existence possible.
Of course, we could never have benefited from everything in this country if it weren't for the taxpayers that came before us and that taxes we pay today. We all benefit from the taxes paid by others, including you.
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Old 03-04-2015, 11:59 PM
 
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1. Taxes
The value of your labor is stolen via taxes.

2. Inflation
Prices rise when governments print money. As prices rise, people work harder, only to pay more in taxes and inflation.
Add 3. Artificially low interest rates to stimulate the economy, which punishes savers and retirees.

Add 4. Flooding the job market with new immigrants and failing to secure the borders while unemployment is high -- thus putting downward pressure on wages, making jobs even more scarce, and perpetuating an expensive tax-payer supported welfare system.

Thanks to an unholy alliance between liberal Democrats and Chamber of Commerce Republicans, those who work hard and save money are punished.

In other words, good bye, middle class.

Hello, concentrated wealth at the top and poverty/government dependency for everyone else.
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Old 03-05-2015, 12:08 AM
 
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And you must be one of those elitist righties who thinks that the income tax is the only tax that counts. Ever hear of sales tax? property tax? payroll tax? auto excise tax? Those taxes on your cable bill that your cable company passes along to you? You gonna try and tell me 47% of the population has no job, doesn't drive, doesn't have cable, and never buys anything?
yep.. and? Are you saying the people who pay the majority of federal taxes don't pay sales, property, payroll, excise, cable taxes and on and on and on and on and on.

congratulations, you win the dumb post award mmmmv.
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Old 03-05-2015, 12:09 AM
 
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How I wish I had wealth to be stolen.
I'll bet you still HOPE for that CHANGE. Well you aren't going to gain wealth by wishing, hoping or expecting government to legislate your prosperity.
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Old 03-05-2015, 12:11 AM
 
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And you must be one of those elitist righties who thinks that the income tax is the only tax that counts. Ever hear of sales tax? property tax? payroll tax? auto excise tax? Those taxes on your cable bill that your cable company passes along to you? You gonna try and tell me 47% of the population has no job, doesn't drive, doesn't have cable, and never buys anything?
All that is true, but we have a $3.5 trillion annual federal budget, with only about half the working population paying significant federal income taxes and quite a few getting paid for being poor through the earned income tax credit.

With state income taxes, the percentage of people paying can be even smaller. For example, the top 1% of California earners paid almost half of all state income taxes according to the franchise tax board last time I looked. Most people paid zip.

We are reaching the point where half the people work to support the other half.
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Old 03-05-2015, 12:17 AM
 
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Add 3. Artificially low interest rates to stimulate the economy, which punishes savers and retirees.

Add 4. Flooding the job market with new immigrants and failing to secure the borders while unemployment is high -- thus putting downward pressure on wages, making jobs even more scarce, and perpetuating an expensive tax-payer supported welfare system.

Thanks to an unholy alliance between liberal Democrats and Chamber of Commerce Republicans, those who work hard and save money are punished.

In other words, good bye, middle class.

Hello, concentrated wealth at the top and poverty/government dependency for everyone else.
Yep. and as long as governments continue to print money to pay their bills, pay people not to work, and keep the financial markets artificially propped up, the problem grows. And they think they aren't contributing to the problem.
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Old 03-05-2015, 12:30 AM
 
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Yep. and as long as governments continue to print money to pay their bills, pay people not to work, and keep the financial markets artificially propped up, the problem grows. And they think they aren't contributing to the problem.
Well, when the government robs Peter to pay Paul, Paul will always approve of that arrangement.

Or, as Margaret Thatcher (?) said, the trouble with socialism is that eventually you run out of other people's money.

Or, as Plato (?) said, the trouble with democracy is that the people eventually discover that they can vote to spend all the money in the treasury. When that money runs out, the democracy is replaced by a tyranny.

Okay, I'll stop with the cliches...
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