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someone wrote, that R is the lessor of two evils, I don't agree any longer, used to, yes, they do some things different, but I refuse to vote for Jebb Bush.....he won't change anything...and to settle is ludicrist....
I believe we've been going downhill for many years, and they have us right where they want us, therefore, I either won't vote, or I'll vote for an independent, but another Bush, no thank you.....
The lessor of two evils, how in the world can you settle like that, and that is exactly what they hope everyone will do, Obama isn't that popular, so we're going to vote another Bush in, he is just as corrupt as the rest of them.
I used to be republican... but I can no longer vote for most of them either... I just do not support their version of the nanny state where nobody smokes, drinks, and lives like it's the 1950's.. along with tax breaks for the rich, a strong dollar, and continued outsourcing. Neither side is very appealing... but in some ways democrats are more appealing... republicans have have been dragged kicking and screaming into the modern age on many social issues and as a social libertarian social issues are important to me... social freedom, tolerance, social rights.. the democrats aren't that much better though... they are nanny state to the core. Better to have gridlock at the federal level where neither side can get too much power to implement their craziness.
Thankfully the democrats haven't gotten our guns like I thought they would have by now 15 years ago when looking forward. Now I don't see them getting them 15 years from now in 2030, but watch they'll end up getting them after all.
Here's is another fear.....most young people in College and lets say nearing their 40's do not know or remember how it used to be like us older folks, so they are unable to see how corrupt it's all become...
and they won't listen to the older folks, I know I didn't.....
I fear they are the ones who are loyal to this corrupt two party system
I think, outside of the obviously corrupt election finance system, Washington suffers more from the Peter Principal (beaurocrats are always promoted to their level of incompetence) and the resulting paralysis than any rampant corruption. If you stay on a bureaucracy long enough you will eventually not know how to do your job but not realize it as well. Thus the job that was the reason for the bureaucracy is eventually not being done.
The Federal Agricultural Department is a good example. It was set up to help the small freehold farmer make a decent living through better education and specific subsidies. It has morphed into a system that drives small farms out of business and a welfare system for huge environmentally destructive agricultural systems that make huge profits for the fertilized, pest control, machinery and financial parasites profiting off the Federal Money.
The other bureaucracy that has lost its original goal of defending us from foreign invasion is the Defense Department. It is less concerned with defending the US than it is with defending its soppliers and political power. The DOD is now a cornerstone of our economy and will likely continue to do so no matter how contrived the reasons for going to War become.
Originally Posted by Kibby
My first sentence did reference the "ignorance" about how it all works.
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Originally Posted by J746NEW
Sorry, but I glossed over most of your post when one realizes the one you are pointing fingers at, government workers that are comprised of the staff assistants, mail mans, teachers and so forth do not write policy.
I guess you just "glossed over" both posts , because both of them were crystal clear that I was talking about the HUGE number of FEDERAL workers ..... not teachers and mailmen.
I think, outside of the obviously corrupt election finance system, Washington suffers more from the Peter Principal (beaurocrats are always promoted to their level of incompetence) and the resulting paralysis than any rampant corruption. If you stay on a bureaucracy long enough you will eventually not know how to do your job but not realize it as well. Thus the job that was the reason for the bureaucracy is eventually not being done.
The Federal Agricultural Department is a good example. It was set up to help the small freehold farmer make a decent living through better education and specific subsidies. It has morphed into a system that drives small farms out of business and a welfare system for huge environmentally destructive agricultural systems that make huge profits for the fertilized, pest control, machinery and financial parasites profiting off the Federal Money.
The other bureaucracy that has lost its original goal of defending us from foreign invasion is the Defense Department. It is less concerned with defending the US than it is with defending its soppliers and political power. The DOD is now a cornerstone of our economy and will likely continue to do so no matter how contrived the reasons for going to War become.
makes a lot of sense, and something I've also been thinking about, but didn't know how to explain it...
before computers, and I don't know if you remember, we were much more accurate in our jobs....plus, there were specialized people who over saw not only where our tax money went, but also, how it was spent, and there was accountability....that no longer exists and also, why our systems are corroding....
What's sad is that some go into politics thinking they can really make a change. But they quickly get caught up in the lobbyists and what they can do for them. All politicians are bought and they don't give a damn about us. I wish there was something we could do about this.
what about the independents?
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