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Old 01-16-2008, 04:54 PM
 
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The Constitution doesn't grant anyone the right to be a racist. The free-speech clause of the First Amendment was intended to protect political speech -- speaking out against your government without fear of repercussion. It was never intended for racists, pornographers, and other dregs of society to hide behind.
Porn is legal, and KKK rallies have had police protection. But I've yet to see anyone not get in trouble for just beating someone's ass if they didn't like what that person said.

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I get so tired of seeing people grasping for the First Amendment to justify their bad behavior. Yes, anyone's right to speak like a fool is indeed protected, but that is not the spirit of the law.
So you're tired of people invoking Constitutional rights, but you don't mind physically harming someone because you disagree with their opinions?

Wow.
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Old 01-16-2008, 04:57 PM
 
Location: Arizona
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Well where do you draw the line? Are insults about your mother acceptable? Do you just have to sit back and take that to allow some fool their Constitutional Rights?

Doubtful. Sometimes a guy has to learn that the exercise of Freedom can come with a pricetag. Freedom is not Free.
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Old 01-16-2008, 05:01 PM
 
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No, not really. Trailer trash is accepted slang terminology in our culture to denote ignorant and lowlife scum. It is understood that some people living in trailers are actually very nice. The fact someone would continue to use racial slurs after being asked to drop it provides sufficient evidence that that person could indeed be put into this category. Person could be black, white, or purple, does not matter. It is more a statement of the person's level of ignorance than a condemnation of the trailer lifestyle, specifically.


Derogatory description for person who seems well-suited to residential life in a mobile home park and is distinguished by poor hygiene, foul language, slovenly or slutty clothing, and general ignorance. Recreations include drinking malt liquor in lawn chairs under tattered R.V. awning and teenage pregnancy. Close synonymn for poor white trash. Can also be used as literal term for personal effects strewn by tornado when ripping though mobile home park.

Urban Dictionary: Trailer Trash

Trailer Trash is no different than tons of people running around saying, "Oh my god that's sooo ghetto" etc....what's the difference?
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Old 01-16-2008, 05:03 PM
 
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Well where do you draw the line? Are insults about your mother acceptable? Do you just have to sit back and take that to allow some fool their Constitutional Rights?
Lol, oh boy, here come the mom jokes. Oh no, you insulted my mommy...whom you have likely never met. Seriously?

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Doubtful. Sometimes a guy has to learn that the exercise of Freedom can come with a pricetag. Freedom is not Free.
And the price is getting your ass beat if someone else disagrees with you? Help me out here...not sure where you're going with this...
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Old 01-16-2008, 05:37 PM
 
Location: Obama playing field
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Okay. I now feel enlightened. Clearly, the quality of my life has improved upon learning this new information. However, I'm one of the people you so eloquently referred to as a "wuss," and I'm fairly confident you know nothing about me.

I thought that was what message boards were for.

So threatening violence makes you a man? This is strange logic to me.


Lemme put it to you simple for such simpleton.

If i were to knock on your door, barged in and started b!thch slapping your daddy and screwed the brains out of your momma, watcha gonna do.

You gonna stand there bargaining with me to stop?. With you carrying on this petty sentiment clearly makes you in a different league than a wuss.

Either you were once a bully yourself who got their balls crushed or some vet who is drowning in their sorrow from the horrors of war, now which is it??
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Old 01-16-2008, 05:48 PM
 
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Lemme put it to you simple for such simpleton.
That's cute and clever. But not really.

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If i were to knock on your door, barged in and started b!thch slapping your daddy and screwed the brains out of your momma, watcha gonna do.
That definitely isn't what we were talking about. Not even close.

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Either you were once a bully yourself who got their balls crushed or some vet who is drowning in their sorrow from the horrors of war, now which is it??
Neither, thanks.

If you want to say something relevant, I might consider actually responding.
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Old 01-16-2008, 06:00 PM
 
Location: Pa
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REALLY?????.....You ASSume too much

Just to enlighten you somewhat. We do know eachother and go back a long way, also ask him, who directed his attention to this site.

I said my opinion on the ops actions, i didnt feel it necessary to write a novel on such mundane situations. Besides mr tinman01 said it perfectly. Basically, talk is cheap when 5h!t hits the fan, so you either carry on being the pu$$y or be the man who stands up for what they say..
Yo Joe, You would have thought that I would have learned by now. There are those who can do, there are those who wish they could do, and then there are those who hide and pray that someone will come do it for them. Ironiclly these are the same folks qiuck to bash on the cops, quick to bash on us miltary types and quick to get a lawyer when they get in too deep.
I have stood and watched these types let their children be harrassed, pushed around and belittled. We wonder that Americans have lost the iron we once had in our spines.
For the Record Graciejj and I have been friends a long time. The brotherhood of war if you will.
I don't regret cleaning that rednecks clock and never will. I will wager that he regrets his actions a great deal. Booze and ignorance make for bad medicine. He learned that inspite of the PC movement some will still take him to task for rude behavior.
For those who supported my position thank you.... Its nice to see some men still understand that its ok to be men.
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Old 01-16-2008, 06:16 PM
 
Location: Pa
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Hm, willing to bet that if he thought there was a chance he might lose, he wouldn't have been so quick to show his chivalry.

Of course, it's easy to beat up on someone weaker than you as long as you have their rudeness to justify it. Yeah, real man there.
The thought never occured to me actually. We all lose eventually I have in fact been bested before. Didn't anyone ever teach you its not about win or lose its how you play the game that matters?
Believe it or not some people still understand honor. The constitution this the constitution that. When it was written the writers of the constituion would have challenge such a jerk to a duel to the death. If they were alive today no doubt they still would.
Something comes to mind. It may have been my father who said or I heard it else where. Don't let your mouth write a check your butt can't cash. That boy wrote such a check. He had the right to call the police bit chose not too. Wonder why? Could it be he realised he was a total jerk and deserved exactly what he got? Thats the assumption I would make if it happened to me for those same reasons.
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Old 01-16-2008, 06:35 PM
 
Location: SE Florida
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Golf and tin- I think you both did the right thing. You politely let them know that they were being offensive, they continued to be bigots and they got what they deserved. Golf, obviously, the moron finally understood what you were saying. He "got it" when you suggested the violence. Ya gotta speak in a language that they understand and for so many bigots, violence is their first language.

I'm not a violent person, but have learned that there is a time for it. I've used the threat of violence twice and my friends thought it was so out of character for me, but it solved the issue both times. Some people just need to have that line in the sand drawn a little deeper.
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Old 01-16-2008, 06:36 PM
 
Location: California
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No, not really. Trailer trash is accepted slang terminology in our culture to denote ignorant and lowlife scum. It is understood that some people living in trailers are actually very nice. The fact someone would continue to use racial slurs after being asked to drop it provides sufficient evidence that that person could indeed be put into this category. Person could be black, white, or purple, does not matter. It is more a statement of the person's level of ignorance than a condemnation of the trailer lifestyle, specifically.


Derogatory description for person who seems well-suited to residential life in a mobile home park and is distinguished by poor hygiene, foul language, slovenly or slutty clothing, and general ignorance. Recreations include drinking malt liquor in lawn chairs under tattered R.V. awning and teenage pregnancy. Close synonymn for poor white trash. Can also be used as literal term for personal effects strewn by tornado when ripping though mobile home park.

Urban Dictionary: Trailer Trash
You see, it might be accepted by you but I'm 100% positive it would not by someone who lives or has lived in a trailer, it's a racist statement agianst a certian group of people, so when you rag on someone else for being racist you should watch what you say yourself. Personaly I don't care what people say, I just choose not to get upset over someone speaking trash.
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