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That you claim to be a conservative Republican doesn't mean beans. For all anyone knows, you could be George Stephanopolous.
Yes, you MUST think a certain way to be a Republican. @@
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Originally Posted by Mack Knife
After 5 years eh? Too bad the murdered don't get their life back after 5 years decomposing in a coffin.
If society says that you've paid your debt after a 20 year prison sentence, then that should be it.
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Now there is a thought but since the dead b=can't be brought back to life after 5 years how about the next best thing? :
Take the murderer and sit them down in a chair. Then get the next of kin to the murdered person and in turn allow them to decide what to do with the murderer. If they all agree to expunge the record, ok. If not, they get the choice of what happens next. On a table, a selection of means are available. Each next of kin gets to take a turn.
Hows that grab you?
^^^This is what I meant in one of my previous posts. Supposedly sane, lucid people come up with really foul and disgusting ways to hurt other human beings.
I have made it 38 years without murdering anyone. Everyone I know has also gone a great number of years without murdering anyone.
It's a one step process.
Step 1: DO NOT MURDER ANYONE.
It's pretty simple really. None of these stories I read show a necessity to murder for survival.
Murders and violent criminals get whatever they get, they are of no use to society and are lucky that people give them any chance whatsoever.
I'm curious can anyone point me to a story about a murder who has improved society, perhaps some humanitarian work, invented life saving technology?
Tookie Williams? Not really in my opinion.
You would be surprised at how normal, law abiding citizens can suddenly be murderers.
Off the top of my head...
-A man killed another man who had been harassing him and his wife, calling their employers and making outlandish threats and claims, stalked the couple etc until one night the man couldn't take any more, snapped and shot the stalker
-A man accidentally killed his sister while showing her his gun
-A man got into a fight in a bar with another man, punched him and the man died
None of these were done intentionally, with malice or forethought. They were the results of bad decisions but it doesn't mean the people who committed the crime are forever damaged, unable to live productive lives after serving their sentences.
But isn't the criminal past wiped out by serving the time? Also, why do you have a right to know other people's business, so you can play judicial system with their lives? If the judicial system said they're free to go, that's good enough for you.
I think if you put yourself I'm the Employer's seat you might feel differently.
I'm curious can anyone point me to a story about a murder who has improved society, perhaps some humanitarian work, invented life saving technology?
Tookie Williams? Not really in my opinion.
Dr. Paul Wood
Daniel Manville
Jimmy Boyle
Albin Matthews
Why do these people have to improve society through humanitarian work or inventing life saving technology? Isn't it enough to just lead a productive life like the rest of us? What have you done in the same vein you are expecting of others?
So, for all those that think once you've done your time and paid for your crime(s) it's still not enough here's something to think about.
Here's a person who committed murder, served her time and has changed her life around yet she still can't get away from the paranoid public who've taken to investigating everyone and everything to death and judging someone just by what they've read.
It's up to the person who does the hiring. Really, these are the things people should think about before they commit their crimes. Life is much harder when you have a violent criminal record.
So, what you're saying is that a person who made a (huge) mistake, admitted that mistake (she turned herself in and pleaded guilty), served her sentence, and improved herself is never any better than that moment when she fired the gun? Wow. I guess there's no reason for people to even try once they've been convicted of a crime.
And no one says the employer is required to hire her; the point is that she is very qualified, but is not permitted to live a normal life 18 years after release. That employers are going back 30 years in background checks - hell, if we did that for presidents, GWB and BHO (and probably most others) would have been eliminated from eligibility.
I think I'll assume that all the judgmental people on here have never experienced sexual abuse before.
Especially the kind that goes on for years and years when you were a young person, the kind of abuse that people ignored when you went to them for help, the kind of abuse that was never acknowledged or dealt with any in any shape or form from a legal standpoint.
I haven't, but I certainly understand how it destroys someone inside, especially when the perpetrator never received punishment for it. And laughs in your face when confronted with their abuse years later, with not an ounce of remorse. The depression, shame, anger, it never goes away, or can be pushed aside but can resurface years later.
Anyone that scoffs at such victims of abuse, or thinks it's something that should be minor as catching a cold ("get over it"), I feel sorry for them.
It's no surprise the victims of sexual abuse can in turn become abusers themselves one day. That's how devastating it is.
So if that was the reason for what she did, then I do have some sympathy for her.
I also wonder those who are hating on her, what about situations where people have guns and attacked or killed others, like a homeowner that goes out of his way to confront someone outside the property with a gun, or a person involved in a road rage, etc.
All I'm going to say is this: if you are truly concerned about the issues you brought up, educate yourself. Educate yourself on criminology, psychology, abuse, etc.
Thanks but no. I don't do crazy
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