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Old 04-19-2015, 11:33 AM
 
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Before 1970, the US Census Bureau classified Mexican, Cuban and Puerto Rican immigrants as whites. Each community of Latin American origin would go by their nationality and by the region where they lived in the United States. But all that changed in the seventies, as activists began lobbying the US Census Bureau to create a broad, national category that included all these communities. The result was the creation of the term “Hispanic”, first introduced in the US Census in 1970.
http://latinousa.org/2014/05/02/invention-hispanics

The real history of "Latinos/hispanics" starts in the 1970s and 80s when it was invented out of whole cloth, and is not 400 years old like people claim. There was no concept of "hispanics" as an ethnic group before then.

Everything about "hispanics" is made-up: "hispanic" history was fabricated, the concept of "hispanic" culture, etc...

Recent debates in the media about the term "white hispanic" are ironic because before the 1980s, the people we consider "hispanics/latinos" today had always been white. They have only recently become minorities.
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Old 04-19-2015, 11:42 AM
 
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http://latinousa.org/2014/05/02/invention-hispanics

The real history of "Latinos/hispanics" starts in the 1970s and 80s when it was invented out of whole cloth, and is not 400 years old like people claim. There was no concept of "hispanics" as an ethnic group before then.

Everything about "hispanics" is made-up: "hispanic" history was fabricated, the concept of "Hispanic" culture, etc...

Recent debates in the media about the term "white hispanic" are ironic because before the 1980s, the people we consider "hispanics/latinos" today had always been white. They have only recently become minorities.
Your point here is what ?? Not too long ago Blacks were considered equal to cattle. Females had NO rights.
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Old 04-19-2015, 11:59 AM
 
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Your point here is what ??
Today, "hispanic" statistics are used politically to make all kinds of ridiculous claims. They, however are not actually a real ethnicity (i.e A Mexican has nothing to do with a Puerto Rican), but rather an artificial grouping of historically unrelated immigrant groups.

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Not too long ago Blacks were considered equal to cattle. Females had NO rights.
The rights that they had has changed, but they existed - blacks existed, women existed. There was no such thing as a "hispanic".

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Old 04-19-2015, 12:02 PM
 
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This is true and so? "Black" is also an artificial grouping...
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Old 04-19-2015, 12:04 PM
 
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Began with the phrase "win it back without firing a shot"

"You're Mexicans - Mexicans Who Live North of the Border.".......Mexican President Ernesto Zedillo - speech to Mexican-American elected officials Dallas, Texas, 1995

"What this means is a transfer of power, it means control, it means who's going to influence. And it is the young people, the people who are now moving to develop an agenda for the 21st century. They are really going to be in a position to really make the promise of what the Chicano movement was all about in terms of self-determination, in terms of empowerment, and even in the terms of the idea of an Aztlan!"*

Armando Navarro Professor of Ethnic Studies, U.C. Riverside

"We're in a civil war. They want to divide us. United Latinos will win throughout California."

Joe Baca, California State Assembly

"We're proud to stand with you against Proposition 187 - we'll fight Proposition 187 in other states as well... We're counting on you. You really hold the key. Hispanics are on the move. Some states don't want to make it easy to register [voters] so we've sued Pete Wilson."

Vice President Al Gore - At Southwest Voter Registration Meeting

"We're all Americans, whether you're illegal or not. How many Latinos do you know can get $1 million from Clinton [for voter registration]?"

Hilda Solis, California State Senator

"As goes the Latino population of California so goes California and so goes America. That is what Southwest Voter [project] must do, you must stand for our Latino future."

[In Spanish] "How beautiful the new world that has a governor named Gonzalez, Hernandez or Martinez. Hispanic names for mayor of Los Angeles, San Francisco, San Diego."

"Mexicans living in the U.S. should be able to vote in Mexico and here to protect their interests."

Arturo Rodriquez, Mexican Consulate


RECONQUISTA: MEXICO'S ATTEMPT TO ANNEX THE SOUTHWEST
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Old 04-19-2015, 12:06 PM
 
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This is true and so? "Black" is also an artificial grouping...
When used for political gain....guess you could call it this. People should be but rarely they are.
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Old 04-19-2015, 12:17 PM
 
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If Mexicans have always been considered white, someone had better send them the memo.
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Old 04-19-2015, 12:25 PM
 
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If Mexicans have always been considered white, someone had better send them the memo.
It's not just that they were "considered" white, they identified as white (and the majority still do).

In the past (in segregated America) Mexicans-Americans actually fought legal battles demanding that ALL Mexicans be considered white, and they won. They didn't look to be considered "minorities", until after the civil rights movement when it became beneficial to be a "person of color", or a member of "discriminated minority group".

The concept of "hispanic" ethnicity was invented by Mexican activists Groups (NCLR), to bring more attention to their issues, and get federal minority benefits. They couldn't without a "hispanic" category, because they were white.
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Old 04-19-2015, 12:33 PM
 
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It's not just that they were "considered" white, they identified as white (and the majority still do).

In the past (in segregated America) Mexicans-Americans actually fought legal battles demanding that ALL Mexicans be considered white, and they won. They didn't look to be considered "minorities", until after the civil rights movement when it became beneficial to be a "person of color", or a member of "discriminated minority group".

The concept of "hispanic" ethnicity was invented by Mexican activists Groups (NCLR), to bring more attention to their issues, and get federal minority benefits. They couldn't without a "hispanic" category, because they were white.
Whatever man. So what?

If people wanna identify as so and so, it's no skin off my back.

Kinda silly to worry about it now. What's done is done.
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Old 04-19-2015, 12:35 PM
 
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If Mexicans have always been considered white, someone had better send them the memo.
Historically Mexican immigrants came primarily from the north and were more "white" - even the braceros. Since the 1970's migrants, particularly illegal migrants, have been more Mestizos from the south of Mexico. Like the Highland Clearances, the migration is driven by cattle replacing corn and small scale farming.
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