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Old 04-26-2015, 06:42 PM
 
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If you're going to complain about not being able to ride a bike in certain heavily pedestrian public areas, you just want to be difficult. I am white and have been stopped numerous times for riding a bike when you're not supposed to - I didn't see the video so have no idea what transpired, but public places where biking is prohibited, people of all shapes, colors, genders will be stopped.

This happens in almost all cities, vacation areas, boardwalks, etc. having freedom in this country does not mean doing anything you want.
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Old 04-26-2015, 06:46 PM
 
Location: Aztlan
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I didn't say anything about race in the OP,...moreover, I said that the shooting, while questionable, isn't really the topic.
From your first post in this thread, which you started:

Florida deputy stops black man on bike, shoots him 4 seconds later - Chicago Tribune

That doesn't mention race?

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I'm only asking if we're allowed to ride our bicycles in public places unmolested by police if we're not committing a crime.
You are ignoring that Stephens was committing a couple crimes. He was riding against traffic and he was riding distracted. He almost collided with a truck. Before you come out with the dodge that those crimes don't warrant shooting, let me remind you that the shooting took place after Officer Lin pulled him over and what occurred to make him shoot was off camera. Cameras are great and I will be among the first to acknowledge them if a cop acts wrong, but in this case we don't know what happened off camera and it is stupid to assume that Lin acted criminally based on the video. Stephens shooting was tragic, but it would not have occurred if he had not pointed what looked like a gun(even though it was a cell phone) at Lin.
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Old 04-26-2015, 06:50 PM
 
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I have seen a female cop in Brooklyn ticket a guy for riding against traffic on a bicycle. Everyone who witnessed it thought it was petty and laughable.
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Old 04-26-2015, 06:51 PM
 
Location: Aztlan
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LMAO...dude, he's riding a bicycle...not operating an 18 wheeler.

You'd pull over closer to the shoulder? Why would you do that?
A bicycle is a vehicle subject to the same rights and responsibilities as any other vehicle. Did you know that a bicyclist can legally turn left across lanes just like a car. I doubt it with your attitude. Consider yourself now educated.
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Old 04-26-2015, 06:53 PM
 
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This video tho... is horrible. How does a police dept. determine a shooting of an unarmed man is justifiable.

There is something going on with our police.
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Old 04-26-2015, 06:53 PM
 
Location: 53179
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Initially he was going to pull the bicyclist over for biking against traffic, almost getting hit by a car. However, the bicyclist turned onto a side street and the police officer followed him. The police officer thought he looked suspicios and didn't recognize him from the area.

I'm not so sure if it is a racial thing. If the cop saw a white guy looking like a meth head biking against traffic, dodging traffic, actin erratically, I'm sure he would have been pulled over as well.
Now, as far as the shooting goes, the cop claimed the bicyclist was reaching in the back of his waist band, possibly for a gun.

So how are cops trained. What was he suppose to do/act like? That's what I like to know.

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Old 04-26-2015, 06:53 PM
 
Location: Aztlan
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We're your brothers?
Of course. You are a human being, correct? All male human beings are my brothers.
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Old 04-26-2015, 06:54 PM
 
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If you're going to complain about not being able to ride a bike in certain heavily pedestrian public areas, you just want to be difficult. I am white and have been stopped numerous times for riding a bike when you're not supposed to - I didn't see the video so have no idea what transpired, but public places where biking is prohibited, people of all shapes, colors, genders will be stopped.

This happens in almost all cities, vacation areas, boardwalks, etc. having freedom in this country does not mean doing anything you want.
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Later, he would say he followed Stephens to give him a traffic ticket for not bicycling properly. But he also would acknowledge he was suspicious of Stephens, whom he had not seen in the neighborhood before that morning, according to court records.

He intended to stop him, ask for identification and find out where he had come from and where he was going. He considered frisking him. But Lin, who is of Asian descent, denied racially profiling Stephens, who is black, and wore his hair in long dreadlocks.
So NOTHING in these two paragraphs is even a little bit alarming?
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Old 04-26-2015, 06:55 PM
 
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Of course. You are a human being, correct? All male human beings are my brothers.
Nah...let's not get carried away.
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Old 04-26-2015, 06:55 PM
 
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I have seen a female cop in Brooklyn ticket a guy for riding against traffic on a bicycle. Everyone who witnessed it thought it was petty and laughable.
Are you referencing Alec Baldwin being ticketed in NYC? Then when he did not have identification and became belligerent they arrested him. But, that never happens to white people, does it?
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