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Old 04-28-2015, 05:12 PM
 
Location: Staten Island, NY
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The police officers’ bill of rights - The Washington Post


In 2007, Shreveport police officer Wiley Willis arrested 38-year-old Angela Garbarino on suspicion of drunken driving. While in custody, as captured on the video below, Garbarino begins arguing with Willis about what she said is her right to make a phone call. About a minute later, Willis walks over and turns off the video camera. When the camera comes back on, Garbarino is lying on the floor in a pool of her own blood. She was later photographed with severe facial injuries she says were the result of Willis beating her. Willis’ attorney stated that she tripped and fell while the camera was off. After the video went viral, Willis was fired, but has never been criminally charged.
Last month, the Shreveport Municipal Fire and Police Civil Service Board voted to reinstate Willis on the police force. He’ll get full back pay and benefits for the year-and-a-half he was fired. The reason? During the internal investigation of Willis, a polygraph machine operator failed to record the results of his Q&A with Willis. This apparently is a violation of Louisiana’s “Police Officer’s Bill of Rights,” a set of guidelines every department must follow when investigating officer misconduct.
Garbarino won a $400,000 settlement from the city of Shreveport last year.
So because of that minor error in procedure, the bad cop gets his job back with full backpay. The residents and taxpayers of Shreveport get hit twice — they get to foot the bill for Garbarino’s compensation, and they get an abusive cop back on the city’s streets.
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Old 04-28-2015, 05:14 PM
 
Location: Staten Island, NY
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This has implications in Baltimore as well:

Barack Obama on Baltimore: We Need 'Political Mobilization' to Solve Problems - Hit & Run : Reason.com
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Old 04-28-2015, 05:17 PM
 
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Why not? Obama and Clinton are above the law. At least the police are useful at times.
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Old 04-28-2015, 05:21 PM
 
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Why not? Obama and Clinton are above the law. At least the police are useful at times.
But only when people decide they need them..

fergusn..POLICE SUCK

baltimore.....where the hell are the police...

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Old 04-28-2015, 05:26 PM
 
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Sounds like a good place for the next riots to start.
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Old 04-28-2015, 05:29 PM
 
Location: Staten Island, NY
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Sounds like a good place for the next riots to start.
Some are speculating that the Baltimore riots started at least in part because too many people believe that, when an officer commits an outright crime, they don't get charged as criminals; they're fed up with the double standards. See the OP.
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Old 04-28-2015, 05:32 PM
 
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Some are speculating that the Baltimore riots started at least in part because too many people believe that, when an officer commits an outright crime, they don't get charged as criminals; they're fed up with the double standards. See the OP.
Its not just a belief. Its a fact.
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Old 04-28-2015, 06:14 PM
 
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All governments have a monopoly on force. A democratic government is supposed to have that monopoly by the consent of the people. If we are a democratic nation, then we have to accept the government's monopoly on force because we voted them in. If you disagree, you need to either vote against incumbents, or try to overthrow the government. Personally, I don't think I'm up to the task of being a revolutionary.
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Old 04-28-2015, 06:20 PM
 
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All governments have a monopoly on force. A democratic government is supposed to have that monopoly by the consent of the people. If we are a democratic nation, then we have to accept the government's monopoly on force because we voted them in. If you disagree, you need to either vote against incumbents, or try to overthrow the government. Personally, I don't think I'm up to the task of being a revolutionary.
We have not decided they are above the law. We have gave the police the power to detain people and that's about it.

Yes, they can shoot in self defense but so can everyone. They can hit back if hit but so can anyone.

Obviously this means the government does not have a monopoly on force.
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Old 04-28-2015, 06:58 PM
 
Location: Madison, WI
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We have not decided they are above the law. We have gave the police the power to detain people and that's about it.

Yes, they can shoot in self defense but so can everyone. They can hit back if hit but so can anyone.

Obviously this means the government does not have a monopoly on force.
Most of the job of law enforcement is to initiate force. Government agents are the only humans that are believed to have the right to initiate violence, so that's the monopoly on force. It's wrong for citizens to threaten or use force against anyone, but politicians, police, military, etc. are allowed to.

Can you delegate a right to someone that you don't have yourself? If citizens don't have the right to do it, how do they delegate that right to government officials?
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