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Old 05-02-2015, 02:00 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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I see my point when over your head, minimum wage didn't kill the CD Music store industry, technology did. Same goes for books and comic books. It is funny how you guys like to ignore that fact while clamoring for businesses to pay American workers as little as possible.
They aren't dead though. There are still stores. But they have very thin profit margins.

If the owner is smart he'll give up his brick and mortar and move his shop "online".

Just like any business..reduce your expenses to maintain your profit.
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Old 05-02-2015, 02:05 PM
 
Location: Alaska
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The digital age has done morw damage to bookstores and comic books than the minimum wage does. Also, I believe Borderlands isn't closing now.
And the moonbats come out to justify failed policies based on things that may or may never happen. The fact is $15.00 an hour kills small businesses. It was pushed by moonbats and the people loosing their jobs have moonbats to thank.

Pretty simple isn't it? At least once you blow through all the smoke and B.S. justifications right?
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Old 05-02-2015, 02:06 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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You leftists make me laugh. If it wasn't minimum wage that killed these businesses why are they closing now and not before minimum wage was raised?

Don't bother attempting to answer.
Then you are choosing to ignore simple business knowledge. If demand goes down and cost of business goes up, the business fails. But a business can also fail if demand drops too much to support itself. But you keep thinking if only American could be paid pennies on the dollar that these poor businesses would be able to stay in business.

Here is an idea for you, if you want a business to survive, spend more money at that business.
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Old 05-02-2015, 02:07 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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They aren't dead though. There are still stores. But they have very thin profit margins.

If the owner is smart he'll give up his brick and mortar and move his shop "online".

Just like any business..reduce your expenses to maintain your profit.
Thanks to technology, that is the way most comic book and bookstores are going. Powell's Books is one of the biggest online supply stores for Amazon and their book sales.
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Old 05-02-2015, 02:08 PM
 
Location: Portland, Oregon
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And the moonbats come out to justify failed policies based on things that may or may never happen. The fact is $15.00 an hour kills small businesses. It was pushed by moonbats and the people loosing their jobs have moonbats to thank.

Pretty simple isn't it? At least once you blow through all the smoke and B.S. justifications right?
And the cost of living in SF is? A small business that can only pay employees a couple bucks couldn't afford to survive in SF anyway, the increase of minimum wage doesn't matter.
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Old 05-02-2015, 02:26 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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And the cost of living in SF is? A small business that can only pay employees a couple bucks couldn't afford to survive in SF anyway, the increase of minimum wage doesn't matter.
Don't be so quick to dismiss it.

They did exist. They were surviving in SF.

And and increase in min wage does matter.

With SF it's going to be the increased min wage that breaks their backs.

There's a lot of small mom and pops that had to close/relocate in Austin. Being a hot city the taxes and rents went sky high.
And most people find comfort in chain stores rather then the single mom and pop they never heard of before.
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Old 05-02-2015, 02:27 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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Oh, I know, businesses should be free to pay employees as little as they want, even if they run a business in a shrinking industry. You know, minimum wage increases is what led to the death of the CD Music stores too.
You really don't understand business at all, do you. Wages are market driven. If a company doesn't want to pay the rate that is determined by the market for a given job, they will have a very hard time finding qualified employees, if they can get anyone to work for them at all. Really, I doubt that there is any business that would pay less than the market rate for a position. Some may pay more. But no one is dumb enough to pay less. They aren't going to be in business very long that way.
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Old 05-02-2015, 02:29 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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You really don't understand business at all, do you. Wages are market driven. If a company doesn't want to pay the rate that is determined by the market for a given job, they will have a very hard time finding qualified employees, if they can get anyone to work for them at all. Really, I doubt that there is any business that would pay less than the market rate for a position. Some may pay more. But no one is dumb enough to pay less. They aren't going to be in business very long that way.
That trend is changing though with mandated min wage laws.
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Old 05-02-2015, 02:32 PM
 
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When liberal policies smack people upside the head... you get this...

Hibbs says that the $15-an-hour minimum wage will require a staggering $80,000 in extra revenue annually. “I was appalled!” he says. “My jaw dropped. Eighty-thousand a year! I didn’t know that. I thought we were talking a small amount of money, something I could absorb.”

and this...

Although all of us at Borderlands support the concept of a living wage in princip[le] and we believe that it’s possible that the new law will be good for San Francisco — Borderlands Books as it exists is not a financially viable business if subject to that minimum wage. Consequently we will be closing our doors no later than March 31st.

Here's my problem with liberals.

If they are so in favor of living wages... why do they need the government to tell them to pay a living wage? Why wasn't the comic book store paying $15/hr from the start?

Liberal business owners are free to pay higher wages at any time.
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Old 05-02-2015, 02:32 PM
 
Location: NE Ohio
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And people should be able to sell their labor for as much or little as they can. Politicians have no business dictating anyones pay.
Your CD analogy is more idiocy
A self employed person has that kind of freedom. One who is employed by someone else, does not. Unless, they are highly qualified, with exceptional skills, and great recommendations, then they might be able to negotiate a higher wage or salary than that being offered.
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