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Old 05-12-2015, 07:02 AM
 
Location: Gone
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No, they don't.

If they want to eat and be housed, they can earn their own money instead of getting the government to steal it from the rest of us.

Or they can starve. Makes no diff to me.

When we have a million legal immigrants a year (most of them poor and from the Third World) and millions more illegals doing jobs "Americans won't do," nobody can rightly say that able bodied people on welfare deserve a handout.

They deserve nothing.
When they starve enough they will come for your food and you will be no longer needed it, read some history or repeat it.
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Old 05-12-2015, 07:08 AM
 
Location: Miami, FL
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As much as I cannot understand folks who will not work or better themselves I also do not understand folks who need 40,000 sf homes and the necessary income to manage similar properties. I sold to the latter market for many years and really could not see what made them tick other than a love or addition to money.

Both the subsidising the perpetual poor and the uber wealthy types needs to change.

Oh yeah, another free trade deal in the works. There go more jobs. People laughed at Ross Perot when he made his giant sucking sound comment. He was a wacko but he knew business.

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Old 05-12-2015, 07:10 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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My mistake TANF is 60 months lifetime eligibility. SNAP is 3 month eligibility every 3 years. Here is the SNAP rule

Unless exempt, an able-bodied adult without dependents (ABAWD) is any individual, age 18 to 50, who is not meeting the work requirement, as defined in A-1831.1.2, ABAWD Referral Process. These individuals are initially limited to three months of Supplemental Nutrition Assistance Program (SNAP) eligibility in a 36-month period. After the initial 36-month period ends, another 36-month period begins the first month the individual fails to meet the work requirement.
Parents with children under 18 are the majority of food stamp recipients. They're not limited to only 3 months of food stamps every 3 years. Hence, the extremely high birth rate of those receiving food stamps and other forms of public assistance:

1) Those who receive public assistance have a birth rate 3 times higher than those who don't. Stats and citations, here:
http://www.city-data.com/forum/32045595-post217.html

2) Nearly half of all U.S. births are paid for by Medicaid (medical care public assistance program for the poor).
Medicaid Pays For Nearly Half of All Births in the United States | publichealth.gwu.edu

3) 70% of those who are born into poverty never even make it to the middle class.
Only 30% of those born poor ever make it to the middle class

What's the plan for paying to support the exponentially growing perpetually needy class? What happens when paying to support their ever-increasing numbers becomes so burdensome that it strains available resources? Hmmm...?
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Old 05-12-2015, 07:13 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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The fact remains that many more whites receive welfare than blacks.
Seems you don't understand even basic statistics. You received an inadequate education. That's a shame.
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Old 05-12-2015, 07:13 AM
 
Location: Miami, FL
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When they starve enough they will come for your food and you will be no longer needed it, read some history or repeat it.
There was a History Channel what-if program on a similar subject. Folks start to rebel/riot after having no access to food after 72 hours. Based on some European studies looking at what would cause a breakdown in civil order. Nine meals from Anarchy and all that.

BTW, That EBT card keeps a lot of food/cpg folk in business and profitable. There will be severe repercusions to the middle class if the unreconstructed poor were cutoff.
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Old 05-12-2015, 07:50 AM
 
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The poor have to eat, be housed, and be fed, just like everyone else.
How about the poor WORK for the money to pay for their housing and food like everyone else?
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Old 05-12-2015, 07:52 AM
 
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There was a History Channel what-if program on a similar subject. Folks start to rebel/riot after having no access to food after 72 hours. Based on some European studies looking at what would cause a breakdown in civil order. Nine meals from Anarchy and all that.

BTW, That EBT card keeps a lot of food/cpg folk in business and profitable. There will be severe repercusions to the middle class if the unreconstructed poor were cutoff.
Anything but WORKING for the food. Gimme or I'll riot. And yep, who do you think benefits from those EBT cards. Big banks of course! And I thought the left hate big banks, JP Morgan and here the left doesn't even realize that government is soaking every day Americans to funnel that money to the big banks who make big money "using the poor" to do it.

jp-morgan-s-food-stamp-empire.html
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Old 05-12-2015, 08:03 AM
 
Location: The Lone Star State
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A lot of hate and vitriol in that church sermon of yours.
Makes one wonder what kind of "church" this is...
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Old 05-12-2015, 08:27 AM
 
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Why do right wingers do that so much? Why don't right wingers just admit that it is all about money for them, and that moral concepts such as humane consideration for others isn't any concern of theirs? Why don't right wingers just admit that it is all about the comfort and luxury of the few for them? Why don't right wingers just admit that poor people just pound sand for all they care? Could it be guilt? The right wing is so consistent and forceful about its indefensibly immoral perspective that it seems strange that guilt could motivate such silly rhetoric silliness on their part.
Why don't left wingers admit it's all about control and coercion? Why don't left wingers admit it's all about the elite, privileged few dictating to the masses? Why don't the left wingers admit that their plan depends on stealing from those that produce and giving to those who don't so they can buy their votes? Why don't the left winger admit that their high flown rhetoric about moral superiority is absolutely the same as the Walrus weeping while he devoured the oysters.

"I weep for you," the Walrus said:
"I deeply sympathize."
With sobs and tears he sorted out
Those of the largest size,
Holding his pocket-handkerchief
Before his streaming eyes.

"O Oysters," said the Carpenter,
"You've had a pleasant run!
Shall we be trotting home again?'
But answer came there none--
And this was scarcely odd, because
They'd eaten every one.


Why don't left wingers admit that the policies they advocate have failed every time they've been tried and that they always resort to barbed wire and bayonets in an attempt to make people do what they want? Why don't left wingers admit that one of the first tools they resort to is censorship of those who disagree with them? Why don't left wingers admit that there number one tool is the lie, because if they actually were truthful about their intent no one would listen to them for a minute?
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Old 05-12-2015, 08:30 AM
 
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The fact remains that many more whites receive welfare than blacks.
I bet when you add two and two you get sixteen, because clearly simple mathematical ideas are way beyond your comprehension.
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