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Old 05-08-2015, 11:17 AM
 
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I agree... I think SOME African countries are more responsible than others... I think American Black culture is also very different than those over in Africa.... What people say over here as "black culture" is the culture of teaching their kids to be racists against white people because they believe they are victims of racism... Now, racism still exists in the country and I do believe that it has created poverty and violence in the black community... but I don't think teaching black kids with this idea ingrained into their heads is the solution... the "black culture" is doing something wrong and then claiming to be the victim of circumstance...
Well....have you ever been to Ghana? I have...twice and I learned about the history of European slave traders and colonizers upon the people of Ghana. They have tours dedicated to this. Its part of their tourist industry. So.....that was a massive fail of reasoning on your part. No one is teaching their kids to be racist by teaching them history.
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Old 05-08-2015, 11:26 AM
 
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Spoken like a true racist, unable to consider any influence but the one they decide is true. Never mind any other element of truth.
If there was another, just as significant or more, element of truth.....you would have drooled over your key board in your excitement to debunk me with it. Your counter claims of racism is meaningless. It does not have the effect on blacks as it has on you all......because you HAVE THE RECORD.
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Old 05-08-2015, 11:30 AM
 
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Yes.....and note the history of that country in regards to whites influence on the area. Look at all the countries where whites enslaved and or oppressed blacks.......these places have the highest black murder rates.
Look at the places that still employ Slavery as they have for 1400 uninterrupted years. Before and since European Colonialism: Mauritania, Sudan, Chad and many others. The Expansion of Slavery brought into Africa by Muslims is still there. You give White Europeans too much credit.

Slavery in contemporary Africa - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
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Old 05-08-2015, 11:34 AM
 
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Racial discussions - or more to the point, what black fold do or don't do - on this forum are so freaking repetitive, and tedious, one would think that all you would have to do is just cut and paste comments from the last 50 threads. Threads which are nothing but minor variations on the same theme. Of all the useless conversations here these are way at the top for uselessness.
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Old 05-08-2015, 11:36 AM
 
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Look at the places that still employ Slavery as they have for 1400 uninterrupted years. Before and since European Colonialism: Mauritania, Sudan, Chad and many others. The Expansion of Slavery brought into Africa by Muslims is still there. You give White Europeans too much credit.

Slavery in contemporary Africa - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Those are different issues. The pot cannot call the kettle black. The same race cannot racially denigrate itself. You can have tribalism and have one tribe oppress another to lift one tribe above another, but a race cannot racially oppress itself...only another race can be guilty of such.
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Old 05-08-2015, 11:38 AM
 
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Racial discussions - or more to the point, what black fold do or don't do - on this forum are so freaking repetitive, and tedious, one would think that all you would have to do is just cut and paste comments from the last 50 threads. Threads which are nothing but minor variations on the same theme. Of all the useless conversations here these are way at the top for uselessness.
Yes.....but right vs left politics never get old....despite the regurgitation of the same platform and positions ad nauseam.....and do not mention that both sides are usually hypocrites.
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Old 05-08-2015, 11:44 AM
 
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From what I have read, blacks well doing well in the 50s (?).
Were they aware of that, lol.

Mick
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Old 05-08-2015, 11:49 AM
 
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I am glad that my white brethren is generously dedicating their time to analyzing what went wrong with the black community in America and how to fix it. Y'all are so nice.

I wait with bated breath for the obvious solution of exchanging American blacks for Ghanians to be mentioned as the solution. Psssst.

Mick
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Old 05-08-2015, 11:49 AM
 
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Anyway, American black culture comes from the people they set out to emulate and got their language, religion, and sense of morality from...white America.
Thomas Sowell agrees with you.
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Old 05-08-2015, 11:49 AM
 
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From using my own analysis, my conclusion is that the black family has been broken since slavery (and as a result). Why? Because the traditional role of the male, in the family unit, is provider and protector of the household. In general, white society emasculated the black male, taking away his ability to provide and protect the family from the ravages of racism.

Men who cannot provide for a family tend to feel less than a man.....and those pressures can lead to men leaving a family (or not marrying). However, keep in mind that blacks, up until 1950, were mostly RURAL. In rural areas traditions hold much stronger than in large impersonal urban areas. In small rural areas there is not as many opportunities to to stray from traditions...and back then, shame was a powerful motivating factor. Hence, struggling black males, out of tradition and lack of other opportunities, married and stayed married. Again, I am speaking in general or as a general rule. I am not saying that this was always the case.

One of the big changes came when blacks went from being rural to urban (the great migration up north to places like Detroit, Chicago, New York, Philly). Northern urban settings was a radical change for many AA. Traditions simply do not hold up as well in the impersonal urban setting....especially in the context of the larger American society that was putting more emphasis on individualism and doing your own thing. In this context, there was no longer the glue holding the family unit together, for struggling black males. The black family unit was broken long ago, by breaking the black males ability to provide. It just took it awhile to fall apart.
If you reside in an urban area, you have much more job opportunities than living in a rural area. No matter where you live, it unwise start a family, if you can't afford to support a family. I was born and raised in Brooklyn NY, and I never heard anyone use an urban setting as an excuse for breaking up a family.
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