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Old 05-08-2015, 05:48 PM
 
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Shrug, Actually I think Bernie Sanders is better, so nope, not so much shame here. As for the democrats...I think they want better. But even with as bad as she s....she is still a better choice then the Republican lineup......and you're trying to put them down? Really? Thats just sad.

If she was beating every single one of my candidates I'd be ashamed. Right now Bernies gaining on her rapidly.
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Yep, if I were a repug, I would be hiding my head shame too knowing that there is no repug who can beat a poor candidate like her. Just like there was no repug who could beat a poor candidate like Obama in 2012.

Says a lot about the current crop of repugs running for President.
So lets see if I understand your position..

You nominate someone who you pretty much admit is a POS, and it doesnt embarass you because the POS beats whoever is the Republican nominee...

And you think somehow, its republicans who should be embarrassed, even though you just nominated a POS.. ooohhh brother
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Old 05-08-2015, 05:52 PM
 
Location: Ft. Myers
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Just once I would love to see an election where one candidate stood out and made you go "WOW, this is someone I think who can actually make a difference in this country." But it always comes down to the lesser of the two evils.

I am no fan of the GOP, no way, no how, but I am also luke warm about Hillary. She just doesn't seem very Presidential to me somehow. But if she is running I will vote for her, simply because I could never vote for the other party.

Don
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Old 05-08-2015, 05:54 PM
 
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So lets see if I understand your position..

You nominate someone who you pretty much admit is a POS, and it doesnt embarass you because the POS beats whoever is the Republican nominee...

And you think somehow, its republicans who should be embarrassed, even though you just nominated a POS.. ooohhh brother

Our POS is less of a POS then yours.

And she is not the only choice democrats have....something I have pointed out prior to this.
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Old 05-08-2015, 05:56 PM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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Just once I would love to see an election where one candidate stood out and made you go "WOW, this is someone I think who can actually make a difference in this country." But it always comes down to the lesser of the two evils.

I am no fan of the GOP, no way, no how, but I am also luke warm about Hillary. She just doesn't seem very Presidential to me somehow. But if she is running I will vote for her, simply because I could never vote for the other party.

Don
I can see Ron Paul being someone people can get behind. He definatly has views that can speak to the center.
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Old 05-08-2015, 05:59 PM
 
Location: Eastern NC
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So lets see if I understand your position..

You nominate someone who you pretty much admit is a POS, and it doesnt embarass you because the POS beats whoever is the Republican nominee...

And you think somehow, its republicans who should be embarrassed, even though you just nominated a POS.. ooohhh brother
#1 she has not been nominated yet and no I don't like her but compared with the POS's that the repugs have come up with, yeah you should be embarrassed.
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Old 05-08-2015, 05:59 PM
 
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Hillary wants to be president because she wants to be in history not because she thinks she can do a better job... its the "me me me" Hillary... always has been and always will be... it don't matter, the left will vote for her... they will vote for a dog if it was on the ballet with a "D"... their vote is not spun out of intelligence... the only ones I see who actually fluctuate their votes are the moderate Independents... sometimes they go Republican and sometimes they go Democrat... but at least they actually think... the Republicans are somewhat better than the Democrats, they either vote for the Republican nominee or they don't vote at all...
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Old 05-08-2015, 06:07 PM
 
Location: Los Awesome, CA
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Hillary isn't "unqualified", she might not be everything I'm looking for in a candidate but she's night and day better than everyone on the right... I would gladly cast my vote for Hillary if the choice is between her and a Republican...
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Old 05-08-2015, 06:08 PM
 
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the Republicans are somewhat better than the Democrats, they either vote for the Republican nominee or they don't vote at all...
Really? You believe that Democrats are somehow different, that they vote the same way no matter what? Sigh.

people are people. Being a Republican does not suddenly make you a superior human being, nor does being a democrat. This is nonsense.
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Old 05-08-2015, 06:10 PM
 
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Hillary isn't "unqualified", she might not be everything I'm looking for in a candidate but she's night and day better than everyone on the right... I would gladly cast my vote for Hillary if the choice is between her and a Republican...
Oh come on....how about Jon Huntsmen. Remember him from the last election? Doomed for being too willing to compromise.
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Old 05-08-2015, 06:14 PM
 
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Look, except for the most brain dead, useful idiot faction of the Democratic party, we all know that she is a totally unqualified and uncompelling candidate with no tangible accomplishment to show after being hand picked and walked in to both a Senate seat (as a carpet bagger!) and a cabinet post.

Why are you voting for her? The "Russian reset?" Yeah, that worked out. Libya? Another unqualified success that. Maybe you attend a library or post office that was named by a Hillary Clinton Senate bill, because that is the most important thing she accomplished there. To date, her best accomplishment is totally botching the health care bill as First... errr.. Lady...and turning America right for a generation.

She has the charisma of reptile, and not even a charming little lizard but more like a noisy pit viper. What was your favorite moment in the first campaign? Her flipping out when challenged on driver's licensees for illegals during the first debate? Her faux black accent? Her crying in New Hampshire? Her Lying about being shot at in the helicopter? Anyone remember when she said that people should vote for her because she can get the votes of "hard-working white people?" Yes, a real political genius, this one is.

The woman literally goes beyond being dishonest...its almost as if she looks at lying as a virtue, or gets off on what she can get over on America. I am not even going to get into the scandals, because they speak for themselves, except to say the best one, involving Bill's association with a child pornographer, is still out there as yet unpopped.

Instead, let us talk about how the woman has no moral compass what-so-ever on issues. She believes in post modern truth: her most profound conviction is whatever is expedient at the moment. She was before the Iraq war before she was against it. She was against gay marriage before she was for it. She was a law and order Democrat, and now she wants to let everyone out of jail that she helped put there (well, that is giving her too much credit, but you get the point). She was against driver's licenses for illegals, and now she want to go father than Obama. THIS WOMAN IS MORALLY BANKRUPT and had no rasion d'etre for running others than that she really, really wants to be president. Are you really confident that if elected, she would even be on your side? Doesn't it concern you just a bit that she has always been, in your lingo, a corporate hack?

We ALL hate Hillary whether we admit it or not (I do of course).

Now here is my point for Dems: I keep hearing the bragging about the "blue wall." You start out with a massive electoral advantage! Those of us from the caveman party will have to pull an inside straight to win this thing. You can win without Florida, or even Ohio! And demographic changes only help you over time.

You could put up a brown paper bag with a smiling face written on it and it would beat our best candidate hands down...even though it had no hands!

Why not just ditch her again? You did it once. didn't it feel great? If you really want the first woman, you could put up that Elizabeth Warren, who is totally unobjectionable other than being a borderline socialist and a fake Indian. You can have the no-holds-barred political Robin Hood stealing and spending other people's money that you really want!

For the second time, you could stick it to Hilldog and still be guaranteed the election!

Just think it over. I would like to start a movement here. This is one issue that I think deep down Dems and us caveman can agree on... ANYONE BUT HILLARY!
They have no one else. The Dems stupidly put all their eggs in one basket. LOL that Bill Clinton can't shut up. Her campaign laughs it off as "Bill is just being Bill". So far conservatives have one woman, one black man, and two hispanics running for the office along with the white guys.
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