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Old 05-13-2015, 03:03 PM
 
Location: Portland, OR
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How long should we give the next President to clean up the mess this president has left?

-Record low labor force rate
-wage stagnation
-racially charged climate, him being among the most racially divisive presidents ever
-the "Affordable" Care Act
-record high income and wealth inequality
-distrust in government
-the most divided political environment since the civil war
-$8 Trillion in additional debt to the overall national debt, almost more than all presidents combined
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Old 05-13-2015, 03:14 PM
 
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No one will clean it all up I'm afraid.
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Old 05-13-2015, 03:21 PM
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Location: Pine Grove,AL
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[quote=VTHokieFan;39602823]

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-Record low labor force rate
A record would indicate that the feat has never been reached before, that is untrue, there for you either dont know the defintion of the word or are purposefully lying.

Further more, the participation rate has been dropping for 15 years.

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-wage stagnation
explain how that is his fault , then we can discuss it.

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-racially charged climate, him being among the most racially divisive presidents ever
He isnt the divisive person, its those out there who want to claim any discussion on race is just black people playing the race card.

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-the "Affordable" Care Act
Thats opinion
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-record high income and wealth inequality
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by the logic of those who dont understand free markets, but trumpet them, the first half is good thing and should have stopped the second from happening.

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-distrust in government
Republicans always distrust government left when one of your own is in charge, so thats an easy question to ask. When ever someone with an R gets in the Oval.

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-the most divided political environment since the civil war
it was your party who chose never to work with the President, not the other way around.

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-$8 Trillion in additional debt to the overall national debt, almost more than all presidents combined
How much of that debt is actually attributed to him, calculate that and then lets talk.
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Old 05-13-2015, 03:22 PM
 
Location: Phoenix
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Originally Posted by VTHokieFan View Post
How long should we give the next President to clean up the mess this president has left?

-Record low labor force rate
-wage stagnation
-racially charged climate, him being among the most racially divisive presidents ever
-the "Affordable" Care Act
-record high income and wealth inequality
-distrust in government
-the most divided political environment since the civil war
-$8 Trillion in additional debt to the overall national debt, almost more than all presidents combined
2 consecutive terms with a Republican President and republican controlled House & Senate the whole time.
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Old 05-13-2015, 03:26 PM
 
Location: Pasadena, CA
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-Record low labor force rate
False.

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-racially charged climate, him being among the most racially divisive presidents ever
You can thank right-wing conservatism for the racially charged climate.
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-the "Affordable" Care Act
Obamacare is working.
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-record high income and wealth inequality
Conservatives refuse to raise taxes on the wealthy, raise the minimum wage, and close corporate loopholes.
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-the most divided political environment since the civil war
You're right, we were less divided during the Bush era; we all agreed he was garbage.
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-$8 Trillion in additional debt to the overall national debt, almost more than all presidents combined
Most of that debt can be attributed to failed conservative policies (unnecessary tax cuts, trillion dollar wars, etc)

Bushed handed Obama an economy in freefall. Obama will hand his succesor sub-%5 unemployment. Your post is comically delusional.

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Old 05-13-2015, 03:36 PM
 
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Where we are now is a total system failure.
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Old 05-13-2015, 03:37 PM
 
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How long should we give the next President to clean up the mess this president has left?

-Record low labor force rate
-wage stagnation
-racially charged climate, him being among the most racially divisive presidents ever
-the "Affordable" Care Act
-record high income and wealth inequality
-distrust in government
-the most divided political environment since the civil war
-$8 Trillion in additional debt to the overall national debt, almost more than all presidents combined
THe same amount it took to clean up Bush senior and Bush junior?!?!
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Old 05-13-2015, 03:40 PM
 
Location: United States
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My comments are in red.

As someone that sits in the middle on most issues, I don't understand you right, and left extremists.

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You can thank right-wing conservatism for the racially charged climate. How did you come up with that? Obama has most certainly driven the wedge further between the races.

Obamacare is working. As a whole, that is very debatable.

Conservatives refuse to raise taxes on the wealthy, raise the minimum wage, and close corporate loopholes.

Why didn't Obama fix these issues when the Democrats controlled congress?


You're right, we were less divided during the Bush era; we all agreed he was garbage.

Most of that debt can be attributed to failed conservative policies (unnecessary tax cuts, trillion dollar wars, etc) Again, why didn't Obama fix these issues when the Democrats controlled congress?
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Old 05-13-2015, 04:08 PM
 
Location: Old Bellevue, WA
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History is a guide. Ronald Reagan took office in 1981 with unemployment, high interest rates (18 pct 30 year mortgages), inflation, and general "malaise" as Pres. Carter put it.

By 1984 the economy had rebounded, and Reagan was re-elected in a landslide, winning 49 states. Walter Mondale won his home state of Minnesota, plus Washington DC, which naturally will never vote for limited federal government.

The answer is that it does not take very long.
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Old 05-13-2015, 04:10 PM
 
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I don't know, how long will it take to clean up bush's mess? or clinton's? Or bush sr's? Or Reagans? Or Carters? Come on, same old tired question.
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