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Old 05-20-2015, 11:27 AM
 
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Originally Posted by joeymags View Post
This quote just made my day. It shows the dillusion people have.

Who cares about the small business owners that take a risk, and employ people, and make a middle class living working there tail off. If they can't afford to arbitrarily pay people $15/hr that don't provide $15 in value, then who cares - go out of business.

Yes, I am sure Kohl's will be beating down the door to hire people at $15/hr. When your job checking people out at Kohl's is replaced by a machine b/c you somehow thought you were entitled to $15/hr, I am sure you will realize how good $9/hr would sound.

Since people will now be making a living wage, we should see welfare / SNAP benefits go down dramatically, right? No more public assistance housing?
It seems like we need to force all conservatives to move to Europe, Canada, New Zealand or Australia to see how other 1st world nations are doing; perhaps require study and work abroad for a year or so in order to learn how society works out. That way it will change their mind and would love their work/life balance and salaries after taxes!

Kohl's still need cashiers, no matter what.

 
Old 05-20-2015, 11:29 AM
 
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But is IS wrong to work a low-skill job, but expect high-skill wages.
$15/h is not a high-skill wage
 
Old 05-20-2015, 11:41 AM
 
Location: SF Bay Area
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$15/h is not a high-skill wage
It is compared to the current low skill workers doing low skill jobs.
 
Old 05-20-2015, 11:52 AM
 
Location: Unperson Everyman Land
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Originally Posted by theunbrainwashed View Post
No, that's totally wrong. There is not a 1:1 ratio rise in prices every time the minimum wage has been increased. Never has and never will. A $12 pack of chicken is not going to cost $24 like you are insinuating.

Actually, as time goes on, it may cost much less than that due to a lack of demand on the part of unemployed $15/hr minimum wage workers who can`t find a job.

The effects will come sooner or later, but they will definitely come.

Me?

I`m investing in brown paper bags.
 
Old 05-20-2015, 12:02 PM
 
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Oh, like spain where unemployment is 25% and youth unemployment maybe double that?

Great example. Want to know what to do? Stop tens of millions of uneducated, low skill illegals. Free market wage rises. Or is understanding supply / demand outside of your area of expertise?


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Originally Posted by MX City visiting View Post
It seems like we need to force all conservatives to move to Europe, Canada, New Zealand or Australia to see how other 1st world nations are doing; perhaps require study and work abroad for a year or so in order to learn how society works out. That way it will change their mind and would love their work/life balance and salaries after taxes!

Kohl's still need cashiers, no matter what.
 
Old 05-20-2015, 12:08 PM
 
Location: Wisconsin
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Oh, like spain where unemployment is 25% and youth unemployment maybe double that?

Great example. Want to know what to do? Stop tens of millions of uneducated, low skill illegals. Free market wage rises. Or is understanding supply / demand outside of your area of expertise?
We are nothing like Spain, or Greece. And we won't be if the minimum wage eventually goes up to $15/hr, either.
 
Old 05-20-2015, 12:16 PM
 
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Originally Posted by joeymags View Post
This quote just made my day. It shows the dillusion people have.

Who cares about the small business owners that take a risk, and employ people, and make a middle class living working there tail off. If they can't afford to arbitrarily pay people $15/hr that don't provide $15 in value, then who cares - go out of business.

Yes, I am sure Kohl's will be beating down the door to hire people at $15/hr. When your job checking people out at Kohl's is replaced by a machine b/c you somehow thought you were entitled to $15/hr, I am sure you will realize how good $9/hr would sound.

Since people will now be making a living wage, we should see welfare / SNAP benefits go down dramatically, right? No more public assistance housing?

It's because they will never understand the correlation between value and wage.
 
Old 05-20-2015, 12:16 PM
 
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Oh, like spain where unemployment is 25% and youth unemployment maybe double that?

Great example. Want to know what to do? Stop tens of millions of uneducated, low skill illegals. Free market wage rises. Or is understanding supply / demand outside of your area of expertise?
Why did you take Spain as the only example? I was thinking about Northern and Western Europe.
 
Old 05-20-2015, 12:17 PM
 
Location: Pacific NW
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Originally Posted by MX City visiting View Post
It seems like we need to force all conservatives to move to Europe, Canada, New Zealand or Australia to see how other 1st world nations are doing; perhaps require study and work abroad for a year or so in order to learn how society works out. That way it will change their mind and would love their work/life balance and salaries after taxes!

Kohl's still need cashiers, no matter what.
That's the liberal solution, use force - of course you'd have someone else apply the force. How about we force the liberals to move to Europe, Canada, New Zealand or Australia since they think all of those countries are paradise instead of changing the US?
 
Old 05-20-2015, 12:17 PM
 
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We are nothing like Spain, or Greece. And we won't be if the minimum wage eventually goes up to $15/hr, either.
Yes, because nothing increases employment like higher costs to employers.
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