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Old 05-20-2015, 08:56 AM
 
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Why are you not wearing a $300 pair of Red Wings, one of the few shoe companies still making them in the US. A company that provides good paying jobs to Americans. Put your money where your mouth is.

Instead you are buying a product made overseas because of cost, that lower cost is driven mostly by wages. Why are you not supporting high paying jobs here in the US?
If minimum wages were higher, then maybe I would perhaps afford buying those expensive shoes you are talking about. Most American brand names suck anyway.

 
Old 05-20-2015, 08:56 AM
 
Location: Pacific NW
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^^ All above false, except maybe slightly higher prices but if everybody makes more money that means they can afford paying a dollar or two more, OR owners/CEO makes slightly less money while keeping prices low.
You're just clueless about the real world, aren't you?

Breaking News: BizFed Annual Poll: Two-thirds of Employers Expect Business to Improve | Bizfed: Los Angeles County Business Federation

The City of Los Angeles stood out again as being cited most frequently by employers as unfriendly.

What a shock.

survey participants identified the following as the top three factors driving businesses to leave or choose not to locate in Los Angeles County:

High taxes and fees
Regulatory environment
Housing costs (Housing costs are particularly acute for small businesses with 10 employees or less)


So 2 out of the 3 biggest concerns for small business deciding to leave are directly related to government, and the third indirectly.

Eighty-two percent of survey participants have 100 or fewer employees. The survey found that the impact of a minimum wage hike would be most acute for those small businesses. Thirty-five percent of businesses located inside the City of Los Angeles responded that a minimum wage increase would force them to cut jobs or employee hours.

40% were planning on doing more hiring, so at best that would be neutral for more jobs, more likely those 40% who were doing to hire more will stay the same with 35% cutting jobs.

Most "CEOs" aren't Steve Jobs making billions of dollars, they're small business owners barely turning a profit, increasing their largest expense by as much as 50% has a HUGE impact. It's so simple and yet the left just can't grasp it.
 
Old 05-20-2015, 08:58 AM
 
Location: Pacific NW
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If minimum wages were higher, then maybe I would perhaps afford buying those expensive shoes you are talking about. Most American brand names suck anyway.
Ah, so there's the real reason you're happy - you're getting a pay raise out of it.
 
Old 05-20-2015, 09:00 AM
 
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You're just clueless about the real world, aren't you?

Breaking News: BizFed Annual Poll: Two-thirds of Employers Expect Business to Improve | Bizfed: Los Angeles County Business Federation

The City of Los Angeles stood out again as being cited most frequently by employers as unfriendly.

What a shock.

survey participants identified the following as the top three factors driving businesses to leave or choose not to locate in Los Angeles County:

High taxes and fees
Regulatory environment
Housing costs (Housing costs are particularly acute for small businesses with 10 employees or less)


So 2 out of the 3 biggest concerns for small business deciding to leave are directly related to government, and the third indirectly.

Eighty-two percent of survey participants have 100 or fewer employees. The survey found that the impact of a minimum wage hike would be most acute for those small businesses. Thirty-five percent of businesses located inside the City of Los Angeles responded that a minimum wage increase would force them to cut jobs or employee hours.

40% were planning on doing more hiring, so at best that would be neutral for more jobs, more likely those 40% who were doing to hire more will stay the same with 35% cutting jobs.

Most "CEOs" aren't Steve Jobs making billions of dollars, they're small business owners barely turning a profit, increasing their largest expense by as much as 50% has a HUGE impact. It's so simple and yet the left just can't grasp it.
I don't care if small businesses cannot afford paying $15/h to their employees which is a joke anyway (not even required to pay any benefits so that's another significant savings for them.) Don't hire more people if you cannot afford; I'm sure Walmart and Kohl's are looking for to hire more employees.
 
Old 05-20-2015, 09:01 AM
 
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The conservatives are acting like this is happening tomorrow. If a business can't get their stuff together to pay people a paltry poverty level wage (for Los Angeles) in the next four-five years, then they were probably going to go out of business sooner than later anyway.
 
Old 05-20-2015, 09:02 AM
 
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Ah, so there's the real reason you're happy - you're getting a pay raise out of it.
Actually I'm currently making $19/h, so it does not affect me. But I'm not selfish cold hearted individual; I think about others. People here would like to go back to slave wages
 
Old 05-20-2015, 09:03 AM
 
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The conservatives are acting like this is happening tomorrow. If a business can't get their stuff together to pay people a paltry poverty level wage (for Los Angeles) in the next four-five years, then they were probably going to go out of business sooner than later anyway.
Should be posted on a billboard !
 
Old 05-20-2015, 09:06 AM
 
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^^ All above false, except maybe slightly higher prices but if everybody makes more money that means they can afford paying a dollar or two more, OR owners/CEO makes slightly less money while keeping prices low.
Wow, talk about naive.

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Originally Posted by Rggr View Post
Supply and demand works on wages too - that must be in economy 102.
ROFLMAO.

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The conservatives are acting like this is happening tomorrow. If a business can't get their stuff together to pay people a paltry poverty level wage (for Los Angeles) in the next four-five years, then they were probably going to go out of business sooner than later anyway.
And then we get to hear you moan about everything being a Walmart or big box store with automated checkouts and nobody to assist you.
 
Old 05-20-2015, 09:09 AM
 
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The conservatives are acting like this is happening tomorrow. If a business can't get their stuff together to pay people a paltry poverty level wage (for Los Angeles) in the next four-five years, then they were probably going to go out of business sooner than later anyway.
Maybe the employees should take that time to get their stuff together and not be on minimum wage.
 
Old 05-20-2015, 09:09 AM
 
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The conservatives are acting like this is happening tomorrow. If a business can't get their stuff together to pay people a paltry poverty level wage (for Los Angeles) in the next four-five years, then they were probably going to go out of business sooner than later anyway.
Of course they can. Fast food can just raise prices. Grocery stores can just raise prices. The problem is they can not attract business because a business that pays $15 and hour one place can't compete with one that pays $9 elsewhere and most certainly can't with one that pays $2 in China.

People like MX have to have their cheap shoes.
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