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View Poll Results: DO YOU AGREE: White House Says Overall ISIS Strategy A Success
yes 9 18.75%
no 38 79.17%
other 0 0%
not sure 1 2.08%
Voters: 48. You may not vote on this poll

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Old 05-22-2015, 04:17 PM
 
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Originally Posted by PullMyFinger View Post
As opposed to allowing ISIS to swallow the Middle East and the World's Oil Supply.

You're right, I cannot see how that could ever be a problem. Especially with Israel, Pakistan, Turkey and possibly Iran all having nuclear weapons.

I'm shocked Obama hasn't found a job for you, it seems you see eye to eye.
Who cares about who controls the oil supply. I don't.

Whomever has the oil has to either sell it or drink it. And I don't particularly care where my oil comes from as long as my engine starts.

As for nukes...not our problem. It ain't like those nukes threaten this country.
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In other words, abdicate responsibility. Again, 70% of Americans supported going to Iraq in 2002-2003. If that number had been 30%, Bush would not have been able to proceed. We as a nation were responsible.

Now 12 years later those folks get to face beheadings of children, sex slavery, etc. And America just throws up its hands and says, 'oh well, time to walk away.'
No, abdicating responsibility means that we had some responsibility in the first place.

We don't. We're out. It's over. Come to terms with it.

Sure, 70% of Americans were dumb back in 2003 (and that number ain't much lower now, lemme tell ya), but that was then...this is now.
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Old 05-22-2015, 05:23 PM
 
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It was as successful as his exit plan; in other words not at all.
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Old 05-22-2015, 05:42 PM
 
Location: Inyokern, CA
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The only strategy we should have is to stay as far from the conflict as we can and let the people of the region shoot it out and settle it among themselves.
Oh, then you approved of "stay as far from the conflict..." and that way ISIS and the terrorists can then build up to come here to America and bring their filthy cutting off heads and all the rest right here?

Apparently knowing the Middle East and just world history in general, the only way to stop this terrorism takeover is to go in and wipe ISIS out...as so many of our intelligent military have advised and know we can do in 3 or 4 weeks...then allow the "true" Muslims to build slowly back to learning how to take control and maintain the confidence to stay in control after centuries of living in fear. That can be done, but not if we have the very childish attitude of "let those people shoot it out and settle it among themselves.

Remember, ISIS are cowards. They hide behind women and children. The good Muslims they are fighting have never lived except in fear of their lives under dictators who are unbelievably cruel and control by that fear as did Saddam Hussain and other ilk the Iran Ayatollas. If fear is bred and experienced for centuries, it takes time and great help to overcome which can be done and will then let these Muslims achieve good countries and good life if the strength of America is there to help them...but that will not happen as long as they are afraid America will abandon them at the will of some idiot U.S. President at a whim of political wind.
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Old 05-22-2015, 05:55 PM
 
Location: Texas
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2012 Defense Intelligence Agency document: West will facilitate rise of Islamic State “in order to isolate the Syrian regime”.

On Monday, May 18, the conservative government watchdog group Judicial Watch published a selection of formerly classified documents obtained from the U.S. Department of Defense and State Department through a federal lawsuit.
2012 Defense Intelligence Agency document: West will facilitate rise of Islamic State “in order to isolate the Syrian regime”

And people think they are getting news from Bill O'Reilly or Rachel Maddow ?
Oh, yeah...

Judicial Watch.

The group that back in Sept claimed that ISIS was active in Juarez Mexico and ready to launch attacks in the US at any time.

The group that in April claimed that ISIS had a training camp built up just outside the border near Anapra, NM and was readying terrorists right under the noses of Mexican and US authorities, who were ignoring the threat.

Yep..

I've heard of those bozos. They like to cry wolf.
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Old 05-22-2015, 06:00 PM
 
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Oh, yeah...

Judicial Watch.

The group that back in Sept claimed that ISIS was active in Juarez Mexico and ready to launch attacks in the US at any time.

The group that in April claimed that ISIS had a training camp built up just outside the border near Anapra, NM and was readying terrorists right under the noses of Mexican and US authorities, who were ignoring the threat.

Yep..

I've heard of those bozos. They like to cry wolf.
But it's on the Internet and supports my preconceived ignorant biases! It must be true!
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Old 05-22-2015, 06:15 PM
 
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Oh, yeah...

Judicial Watch.

The group that back in Sept claimed that ISIS was active in Juarez Mexico and ready to launch attacks in the US at any time.

The group that in April claimed that ISIS had a training camp built up just outside the border near Anapra, NM and was readying terrorists right under the noses of Mexican and US authorities, who were ignoring the threat.

Yep..

I've heard of those bozos. They like to cry wolf.
The DoD document is in the link. You are fooling yourself to deny it.
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Old 05-23-2015, 09:16 AM
 
Location: Texas
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The DoD document is in the link.
And... ?

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You are fooling yourself to deny it.
Deny your link?

Never.

Deny Judicial Watch's credibility?

Not required.

They have none.

Don't allow reality to intrude on your paranoia, though.

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