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Old 05-30-2015, 05:29 PM
 
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I see. This is tough b/c water is essential to life. A human cannot live very long without water. In perfect conditions one can possibly live for 8-10 days. Maybe we should let them all die since they are worthless human beings that contribute nothing to society.

I think we want to be careful with this type of thinking. It can apply to a lot more that poor people in Detroit. Anyway, sad all around. Just because "the other" seems lazy compared to our productive selves doesn't mean we're right and they don't want a better life. There is a lot involved here. It's not simple as calling people lazy. I think we should treat people with dignity. It is the moral thing to do.
As I recall, humans did just fine for thousands of years without purified water being delivered to their doorstep. Clean water is a luxury of modern society in some parts of the world, not something that's owed to people for free. There's plenty of water in the world. Cutting off someone's water utilities is not somehow depriving them of water.
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Old 05-30-2015, 05:30 PM
 
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I see. This is tough b/c water is essential to life. A human cannot live very long without water. In perfect conditions one can possibly live for 8-10 days. Maybe we should let them all die since they are worthless human beings that contribute nothing to society.

I think we want to be careful with this type of thinking. It can apply to a lot more that poor people in Detroit. Anyway, sad all around. Just because "the other" seems lazy compared to our productive selves doesn't mean we're right and they don't want a better life. There is a lot involved here. It's not simple as calling people lazy. I think we should treat people with dignity. It is the moral thing to do.
As the infrastructure breaks down due to lack of funding what then? What about the paying customers who were playing by the rules all along?
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Old 05-30-2015, 05:31 PM
 
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A bunch of people in Detroit are about to have their water turned off because they stopped paying their bills. But I know liberals care so much for the poor that they aren't going to let this happen. There's no way they would be greedy enough to hold onto their wealth while poor innocent families and their CHILDREN are about to be without water.

So would you liberals please let us know how much of your own money you are sending to Detroit to support those poor, innocent, underprivileged, hard-working, people in need?

Detroit is starting to shut off people's water again | Fusion
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Old 05-30-2015, 05:31 PM
 
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I see. This is tough b/c water is essential to life. A human cannot live very long without water. In perfect conditions one can possibly live for 8-10 days. Maybe we should let them all die since they are worthless human beings that contribute nothing to society.

I think we want to be careful with this type of thinking. It can apply to a lot more that poor people in Detroit. Anyway, sad all around. Just because "the other" seems lazy compared to our productive selves doesn't mean we're right and they don't want a better life. There is a lot involved here. It's not simple as calling people lazy. I think we should treat people with dignity. It is the moral thing to do.
I agree with you. Apparently the cold hearted types don't realize that disenfranchisement is a very real thing and that some people's bootstraps are not as long or strong as some others.
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Old 05-30-2015, 05:36 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
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Would it not make more sense to indeed make sure that people have running water in America than in paying banks millions in interest for not loaning out our money?
It would make more sense to teach people to earn their keep, while maintaining an environment where contributing is met with just reward.

It is a bad idea to reward undesirable behaviors on any level of society.
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Old 05-30-2015, 05:44 PM
 
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I agree with you. Apparently the cold hearted types don't realize that disenfranchisement is a very real thing and that some people's bootstraps are not as long or strong as some others.
Thanks. I'll never understand why some Americans go after the most destitute populations in our country while not batting an eye towards corporate greed or the military industrial complex. Although, that's another topic. I think we are judged by the way we treat our most vulnerable and some here clearly give us a moral downgrade.
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Old 05-30-2015, 05:45 PM
 
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It would make more sense to teach people to earn their keep, while maintaining an environment where contributing is met with just reward.

It is a bad idea to reward undesirable behaviors on any level of society.
I don't really disagree with this but since we have decided to reward bad behavior how would making sure that people have clean water so offensive compared to the other bad behavior we have rewarded?
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Old 05-30-2015, 05:49 PM
 
Location: Metro Detroit, Michigan
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I don't really disagree with this but since we have decided to reward bad behavior how would making sure that people have clean water so offensive compared to the other bad behavior we have rewarded?
Not offensive at all. I didn't introduce corporation into the discussion. Even still, 2 wrongs don't make a right.

The population has been declining in Detroit for years. People have been leaving. This trend should be encouraged, and it should continue, until Detroit can be made functional and self sufficient once again.
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Old 05-30-2015, 05:57 PM
 
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I guess the OP could try Googling this question....Though if the OP really cares about this issue, nothing is stopping he/she from donating.
Maybe you should have looked at post #6. The OP did indeed do some googling and came up with a link
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Old 05-30-2015, 05:58 PM
 
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Not offensive at all. I didn't introduce corporation into the discussion. Even still, 2 wrongs don't make a right.

The population has been declining in Detroit for years. People have been leaving. This trend should be encouraged, and it should continue, until Detroit can be made functional and self sufficient once again.
Two wrongs don't make a right but people don't seem to grasp that doing one wrong is in large part what is causing many of our problems.

How do you tell a struggling mother of 4 kids that she is not going to get any help while giving millions of taxpayers money to the ones that end up repossessing her house? Is it any wonder that many inner city kids have grown up with a chip on their shoulders?
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