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Old 06-02-2015, 01:43 PM
 
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Both Islam and Judaism demand its adherents to kill various people for breaking 'Sharia' or 'Halakha' law, such as stoning people to death for breaking the Sabbath, kill those who insult the prophet and infidels, cut the hands of the thieves, stone people for adultery, etc. then shouldn't observant Jews and Muslims have the right to do that in America under the First Amendment due to religious requirement if they want to do so? Obviously most Jews and Muslims don't follow their holy books, but what if some really want to do?

I think the the U.S. Supreme Court should be careful with their decisions regarding what is "freedom" and "protection" until Jews and Muslims will start demand practicing their legal penalty religious code.

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Old 06-02-2015, 01:45 PM
 
Location: San Francisco, CA
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Never realized that when it comes to killing people, one needs to also specify that they are being killed to death. Oh my.
 
Old 06-02-2015, 01:46 PM
 
Location: Mississippi
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As big a critic I am of religion, you do have the right to practice your religion as long as it does not inflict harm or damage on others. For example, you can tempt poisonous snakes in a church and if you get bitten and die then that's fine. You were practicing your religion. But, if you start putting poisonous snakes in your local gym locker room so they can "root out evil" then that's a problem.
 
Old 06-02-2015, 01:53 PM
 
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As big a critic I am of religion, you do have the right to practice your religion as long as it does not inflict harm or damage on others. For example, you can tempt poisonous snakes in a church and if you get bitten and die then that's fine. You were practicing your religion. But, if you start putting poisonous snakes in your local gym locker room so they can "root out evil" then that's a problem.
This thread was not intended to discuss the various nuances of religious freedom and what all that entails.

this thread is to point out whatever nuttery the OP can on the subject of their Prog_Activist hatred of the 1st amendment commitment to Religious Freedom.

RF is a demon from hell where the Prog-Activist is concerned. it must be defeated. After all it stands in the way of good honest homosexuals from getting Pizza at their weddings.
 
Old 06-02-2015, 01:54 PM
 
Location: Iowa, USA
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No, a religious person cannot sentence people to death based solely on religious laws.

As it is, capital punishment should be illegal, but certainly capital punishment done by the superstitious should be complete unacceptable.
 
Old 06-02-2015, 02:02 PM
 
Location: Middle of nowhere
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This thread was not intended to discuss the various nuances of religious freedom and what all that entails.

this thread is to point out whatever nuttery the OP can on the subject of their Prog_Activist hatred of the 1st amendment commitment to Religious Freedom.

RF is a demon from hell where the Prog-Activist is concerned. it must be defeated. After all it stands in the way of good honest homosexuals from getting Pizza at their weddings.
The OP recently claimed that "Christianity is 100% true", and started a thread that implies that they believe that Christianity should be taught in schools. Hardly a "prog-Activist", if you ask me.
 
Old 06-02-2015, 02:08 PM
 
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Both Islam and Judaism demand its adherents to kill various people for breaking 'Sharia' or 'Halakha' law, such as stoning people to death for breaking the Sabbath, kill those who insult the prophet and infidels, cut the hands of the thieves, stone people for adultery, etc. then shouldn't observant Jews and Muslims have the right to do that in America under the First Amendment due to religious requirement if they want to do so? Obviously most Jews and Muslims don't follow their holy books, but what if some really want to do?

I think the the U.S. Supreme Court should be careful with their decisions regarding what is "freedom" and "protection" until Jews and Muslims will start demand practicing their legal penalty religious code.


Your rights do not give you the right to trample all over someone elses rights, refusing to bake doesn't fit into that category.
 
Old 06-02-2015, 02:12 PM
 
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Never realized that when it comes to killing people, one needs to also specify that they are being killed to death. Oh my.
so now you have been educated.

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As big a critic I am of religion, you do have the right to practice your religion as long as it does not inflict harm or damage on others. For example, you can tempt poisonous snakes in a church and if you get bitten and die then that's fine. You were practicing your religion. But, if you start putting poisonous snakes in your local gym locker room so they can "root out evil" then that's a problem.
well said.

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No, a religious person cannot sentence people to death based solely on religious laws.

As it is, capital punishment should be illegal, but certainly capital punishment done by the superstitious should be complete unacceptable.
this is also true, even in muslim countries that follow sharia law, there still has to be a trial in front of a proper judge.

and to a point i agree with you on capital punishment. i think it needs to remain as a possible punishment, but it does need to be meted out with greater caution.
 
Old 06-02-2015, 02:12 PM
 
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Originally Posted by MX City visiting View Post
Both Islam and Judaism demand its adherents to kill various people for breaking 'Sharia' or 'Halakha' law, such as stoning people to death for breaking the Sabbath, kill those who insult the prophet and infidels, cut the hands of the thieves, stone people for adultery, etc. then shouldn't observant Jews and Muslims have the right to do that in America under the First Amendment due to religious requirement if they want to do so? Obviously most Jews and Muslims don't follow their holy books, but what if some really want to do?

I think the the U.S. Supreme Court should be careful with their decisions regarding what is "freedom" and "protection" until Jews and Muslims will start demand practicing their legal penalty religious code.
Freedom of religion, like any freedom, is not absolute.

As a secular nation, we the people enact laws that we see as just and effective. Religion does not inform our laws.
 
Old 06-02-2015, 02:17 PM
 
Location: Pacific NW
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The OP recently claimed that "Christianity is 100% true", and started a thread that implies that they believe that Christianity should be taught in schools. Hardly a "prog-Activist", if you ask me.
The OP has also started many threads whining about how everything isn't free and handed to him on a silver platter and how horrible America is, which sounds very prog-Activist. This thread is nothing more than another trolling attempt.
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