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Old 01-01-2016, 10:51 AM
 
Location: St Louis, MO
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These are the discrepancies that I do not understand. Were those officer's just so much more skilled? Less trigger happy? Hesitant to kill a white boy? What?
Read about how he was apprehended. Basically a person randomly spotted him driving on a highway near a small town in North Carolina 250 miles away from the shooting. She called the police, and they staged a fake traffic stop pretending not to know who he was. While he was pulling his license out, they ambushed him with guns drawn and cut him off from his .45. If the timing had been a little off and he got his hands on the .45 in the car, he would be dead.

There was a huge string of luck involved in taking him alive, and probably 90% of the time with the exact same circumstances, he would have been dead after taking an officer or two with him.

 
Old 01-01-2016, 02:16 PM
 
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These are the discrepancies that I do not understand. Were those officer's just so much more skilled? Less trigger happy? Hesitant to kill a white boy? What?
Probably a bit of everything.
 
Old 01-01-2016, 07:52 PM
 
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Knowing his parents, they think it's no big deal, he's just going off to play and others should KNOW it's not a real gun because their son is a good boy. (he really is btw)
Don't forget, that park was a known hangout for gang members. There had been 38 gang arrests there over the previous couple months.
 
Old 01-02-2016, 08:15 PM
 
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Don't forget, that park was a known hangout for gang members. There had been 38 gang arrests there over the previous couple months.
But Tamir never became caught up in the justice system. A records request turned up no criminal charges for the child in Cuyahoga County Juvenile Court has no record of the boy ever being accused of a crime.
 
Old 01-03-2016, 12:48 PM
 
Location: 23.7 million to 162 million miles North of Venus
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I called this months ago concerning the Judge listed in the OP.

i.e. There were going to be no charges brought against those cops simply because they didn't do anything wrong. Check
Meh, don't hurt yourself with all of that back-patting your doing. Anyone who followed this knew that there was an extremely slim chance of any charges. Not because, as you stated, 'they didn't do anything wrong' but because McGinty didn't want there to be any charges. McGinty had directed his experts to ignore almost everything the two cops had done and base their opinion solely on the moments before the shooting and the shooting itself, his experts followed his directions. No doubt he did the same with the GJ.

Those two officers aren't out of the woods yet. The mayor and the city council are against the GJ decision and they have opened up a new investigation against those two cops. It may be possible that the city council will charge them with misdemeanor negligent homicide and dereliction of duty - the strongest charges that the city council can bring under city law. They may also go after the 911 call taker and the dispatcher with disciplinary charges.

The DOJ is also investigating the case for civil violations. And, the Rice family is requesting that they also investigate McGinty for his handling of case with the GJ.
McGinty is also up for reelection, yeah good luck with that.

The DOJ had investigated the CPD twice in just a few short years, with the last investigation ending right before the shooting of Rice. They basically found the CPD to be a train wreck both times. After the first investigation they listed a large number of things that the CPD should work on to change. The CPD followed their suggestions for a short period of time but then fell back into their old habits.

A couple of the many things the DOJ found wrong, in both investigations, was that officers were often too quick to shoot, and, often placed themselves in positions where they endangered themselves and the citizens they were dealing with .. which fits the manner of how the two cops dealt with Rice to a T.
 
Old 01-03-2016, 12:57 PM
 
Location: 23.7 million to 162 million miles North of Venus
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But Tamir never became caught up in the justice system. A records request turned up no criminal charges for the child in Cuyahoga County Juvenile Court has no record of the boy ever being accused of a crime.
Yep. Even the CPD stated that Rice hadn't been known to hang with any gang members.
 
Old 01-03-2016, 01:03 PM
 
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But Tamir never became caught up in the justice system. A records request turned up no criminal charges for the child in Cuyahoga County Juvenile Court has no record of the boy ever being accused of a crime.
So what exactly was he doing when he was walking up to people pointing a gun at them from feet away? Asking if they needed help crossing the street?
 
Old 01-03-2016, 01:07 PM
 
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So what exactly was he doing when he was walking up to people pointing a gun at them from feet away? Asking if they needed help crossing the street?
Alternatively, maybe he was just being a dumb 12 year old kid.
 
Old 01-03-2016, 01:10 PM
 
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Alternatively, maybe he was just being a dumb 12 year old kid.
Unfortunately stupidity that also appears tremendously threatening tends to be an unsafe activity.
 
Old 01-05-2016, 12:30 PM
 
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So what exactly was he doing when he was walking up to people pointing a gun at them from feet away? Asking if they needed help crossing the street?
Walking up to people? He was play shooting. I played cops and robbers or cowboys and indians when I was a child. We usually pretended to shoot from the *cover* of bushes and we pretended to shoot at each other as well as at people who were passing by. The key is pretending.
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