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Old 08-01-2015, 07:07 AM
 
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Congressional Dems should have READ the bill to SEE what was in it before they voted for it.
Absolutely true, I agree 100%. So you are acknowledging that the right's interpretation of ACA is not what the Democrats intended when they passed it? That means it was a drafting error. The SCOTUS reached the right result, then.

Mick
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Old 08-01-2015, 07:14 AM
 
Location: the very edge of the continent
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It's not nice to call Justice Roberts and Justice Kennedy "complete idiots". Along with the other four Justices in the majority, I have it on pretty good authority that they are extremely bright. Maybe they aren't "complete idiots".

Though, I must say, those Justices clearly are not as bright as Limbaugh, Hannity, Carlson, Beck, so on. Aren't they all college dropouts. Oh yeah.

Mick
The term "State" is defined in the ACA law itself. The law's definition of "State" doesn't include the word "federal." What do you not get about that?
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Old 08-01-2015, 07:16 AM
 
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Absolutely true, I agree 100%. So you are acknowledging that the right's interpretation of ACA is not what the Democrats intended when they passed it?
No, I'm saying the Congressional Dems passed a law that deliberately doesn't provide subsidies to federal exchange insurance buyers.
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Old 08-01-2015, 09:03 AM
 
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Its called Statutory Interpretation ...

Statutory Interpretation Law & Legal Definition

fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/97-589.pdf
Which only applies if definitions are not clearly defined inside the law..

more failure.. Bob...
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Old 08-01-2015, 09:16 AM
 
Location: Tampa Florida
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How does that change the actual definition of the words put INTO the law itself?

Thats right, it doesnt..

/FAIL
From the CRS report ....

"In analyzing a statute’s text, the Court is guided by the basic principle that a statute should be read as a harmonious whole, with its separate parts being interpreted within their broader statutory context in a manner that furthers statutory purpose.". But hey, you knew already.
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Old 08-01-2015, 09:51 AM
 
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there is no confusing in QUOTING the law.. the only thing taking place is left wing kooks claiming Democrats didnt even know the definition of the word "state", despite the fact that they defined it inside the law.

Once again, the Supreme Court, called you guys idiots.. You guys seem to agree
It's okay to admit that you were wrong. We understand, you are not a constitutional law lawyer or anything.

Let's hope President Trump/Clinton would not nominate "left wing kooks", like Justices Roberts and Kennedy apparently, to the bench.

I think the SCOTUS called you right wingers idiots for bringing this dumb lawsuit. lol

So, apologize and let's move on.

Mick
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Old 08-01-2015, 10:05 AM
 
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From the CRS report ....

"In analyzing a statute’s text, the Court is guided by the basic principle that a statute should be read as a harmonious whole, with its separate parts being interpreted within their broader statutory context in a manner that furthers statutory purpose.". But hey, you knew already.
And reading it as a harmonious whole, there is NOTHING confusing about the definition.. Unless you're an idiot..
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It's okay to admit that you were wrong. We understand, you are not a constitutional law lawyer or anything.
But I do understand what this means
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The ACA law itself defines "State" as "the term ‘‘State’’ means each of the 50 States and the District of Columbia."
If you think one has to be a constitutional lawyer to know what a state is, and you arent a constitutional lawyer, then by ambiguity, (the same ambiguity you claim is in the law), this would make one a moron.. By time one becomes old enough to post on city data, they should know what a state is.. some of you clearly dont. Are you sure you're old enough to post here?
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Let's hope President Trump/Clinton would not nominate "left wing kooks", like Justices Roberts and Kennedy apparently, to the bench.

I think the SCOTUS called you right wingers idiots for bringing this dumb lawsuit. lol
No, they simply redefined what a "state" was.. because under no way shape or form do you get a non state to be a state, given the definition. But then you knew that.. just playing obtuse
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From the CRS report ....

"In analyzing a statute’s text, the Court is guided by the basic principle that a statute should be read as a harmonious whole, with its separate parts being interpreted within their broader statutory context in a manner that furthers statutory purpose.". But hey, you knew already.
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So, apologize and let's move on.

Mick
I'm sorry there are so many idiots in this country who have to redefine things constantly to suit their own narrative..
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Old 08-01-2015, 10:16 AM
 
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I'm sorry there are so many idiots in this country who have to redefine things constantly to suit their own narrative..
Indeed, sir.

Mick
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Old 08-01-2015, 10:17 AM
 
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Perhaps learning the function of the SCOTUS will help you cope....

Supreme Court, United States: Functions
I'm not seeing where SCOTUS is allowed to change existing law to suit any particular agenda.

Perhaps you can point out the section that explicitly permits such.
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Old 08-01-2015, 10:18 AM
 
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How does that change the actual definition of the words put INTO the law itself?

Thats right, it doesnt..

/FAIL
Exactly.
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