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Old 08-01-2015, 10:20 AM
 
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Its called Statutory Interpretation ...

Statutory Interpretation Law & Legal Definition

CRS Report fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/97-589.pdf
Statutory interpretation is only applicable when the language of a law is ambiguous. In the case of the ACA, it ISN'T. The ACA law itself clearly states the definition of the term, "State."
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Old 08-01-2015, 10:54 AM
 
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Its called Statutory Interpretation ...

Statutory Interpretation Law & Legal Definition

CRS Report fas.org/sgp/crs/misc/97-589.pdf
Pghquest and InformedConsent are grasping at straws again, much like the case that actually brought this lawsuit to the court. They are clearly not understanding that it is not the word "state" that is ambiguous but the clause in which it is contained. They are latching onto that single word like a life preserver because if they opened up to the clause at hand it would force the same logical conclusion that court came to.

Let's be honest here: This was the GOP's attempt at a "gotcha" moment. Anyone involved in the drafting of the law will tell you (and many have, like the aforementioned Sen. Snowe) that the interpretation that the GOP was pushing is not even close to the intent of the law. The GOP didn't care, and wanted a strict interpretation of the clause read because even though such a reading would have been contradictory to the intent of the law, it would have essentially killed Obamacare.

Thankfully, the adults on the SCOTUS weren't having any of that nonsense and decided not to let a glorified typo kill such a monumental bill.
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Old 08-01-2015, 11:10 AM
 
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Some people are like patients who read WebMD for an hour and then lecture their neurosurgeon for being wrong on the diagnosis

Patient: "It's all common sense, only idiots don't understand!"
Neurosurgeon: "You are right about that."

Mick
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Old 08-01-2015, 11:44 AM
 
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Pghquest and InformedConsent are grasping at straws again
Quoting the ACTUAL law's own definition is grasping at straws? ROFL!!!!!
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Old 08-01-2015, 11:47 AM
 
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Quoting the ACTUAL law's own definition is grasping at straws? ROFL!!!!!
Funny how you lopped off the quote before you got to the part that shows what a buffoon you're acting like. Here, allow me.

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They are clearly not understanding that it is not the word "state" that is ambiguous but the clause in which it is contained.
It's been pointed out to you again now. If you keep on it, I'm just going to make the assumption that you're ignorant rather than confused. It's your call.
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Old 08-01-2015, 11:52 AM
 
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Funny how you lopped off the quote before you got to the part that shows what a buffoon you're acting like. Here, allow me.



It's been pointed out to you again now. If you keep on it, I'm just going to make the assumption that you're ignorant rather than confused. It's your call.
Could you please point out the ACA's own definition of the term "State" on page 172:
http://www.gpo.gov/fdsys/pkg/PLAW-111publ148/pdf/PLAW-111publ148.pdf

Thank you ever so much!
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Old 08-01-2015, 12:02 PM
 
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It's been pointed out to you again now. If you keep on it, I'm just going to make the assumption that you're ignorant rather than confused. It's your call.
After reading through this thread, I think if you add the word "willfully" before "ignorant" you would be spot on. It's clearly a choice to pretend not to get it.
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Old 08-01-2015, 12:06 PM
 
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After reading through this thread, I think if you add the word "willfully" before "ignorant" you would be spot on. It's clearly a choice to pretend not to get it.
Are you yet another who can't comprehend the definition of a term clearly written into the law?

If "each" in the definition had been "all," your interpretation would be correct. But it isn't, and you're not. Period.
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Old 08-01-2015, 12:21 PM
 
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Are you yet another who can't comprehend the definition of a term clearly written into the law?

If "each" in the definition had been "all," your interpretation would be correct. But it isn't, and you're not. Period.
You are free to continue to chase your tail in willful ignorance. After reading your posts in this thread it's apparent any attempt to engage in any kind of meaningful exchange is a waste of time.

And anyway, you lost. The SC didn't agree with your willful ignorance. Boo-hoo-hoo for you.
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Old 08-01-2015, 02:14 PM
 
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You are free to continue to chase your tail in willful ignorance.
How is reading the actual definition of the term "State" IN the ACA law being willfully ignorant?
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