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Old 07-02-2015, 04:11 PM
 
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Exactly how is "every single Christian/religious/conscientious objector" being "involved with same-sex marriage"?????
I mean by not letting a single one to opt out who is in a position or scenario to be involved with same-sex marriage , county clerks, wedding services providers, etc.
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Old 07-02-2015, 04:12 PM
 
Location: Home is Where You Park It
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For those interested - very few counties are refusing to issue marriage licenses to gay couples - most of them are in Texas -

Local government responses to Obergefell v. Hodges - Ballotpedia

Over 98% of the US population lives in counties that issue marriage licenses to gay couples.
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Old 07-02-2015, 04:12 PM
 
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First "family values Christian" Rick Perry and now Ken "gay marriage is bad but fraud isnt" Paxton:

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First-degree felony charges to be sought against Texas AG Paxton


For Texas’ top lawman, what started out as a simple admission of a civil violation could now turn into a major crime.

A special prosecutor said Wednesday that he’ll ask a Collin County grand jury to indict Texas Attorney General Ken Paxton on first-degree felony charges of violating state securities law.

First-degree felony charges to be sought against Texas AG Paxton | Dallas Morning News
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Old 07-02-2015, 04:14 PM
 
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For those interested - very few counties are refusing to issue marriage licenses to gay couples - most of them are in Texas -

Local government responses to Obergefell v. Hodges - Ballotpedia

Over 98% of the US population lives in counties that issue marriage licenses to gay couples.
Which is my point, why the need to force every single one when plenty enough are wiling?
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Old 07-02-2015, 04:18 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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Which is my point, why the need to force every single one when plenty enough are wiling?
For the same reason a fast food worker can't refuse to do the dishes.

It's their job.
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Old 07-02-2015, 04:22 PM
 
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I mean by not letting a single one to opt out who is in a position or scenario to be involved with same-sex marriage , county clerks, wedding services providers, etc.
Wedding service providers are businesses, and true, some of them will have to change their ways, either by opening up to same-sex couples or by converting to a church. A church can refuse to perform wedding ceremonies for any couple they don't approve of, and that includes gay couples. They're not required to provide a reason, either.

What will happen to those county clerks who refuse to issue licenses to same-sex couples is yet unknown. I don't see how a person whose government job is to issue licenses to legally qualified couples can get out of it. Unless, as some have suggested, that in a multi-person office, as long as someone else can cover the function, a person can sit it out. Frankly, I doubt very few county clerks will ultimately take a stand on it. And no one will much care, either.
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Old 07-02-2015, 04:24 PM
 
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Which is my point, why the need to force every single one when plenty enough are wiling?
We'll have to see how it shakes out.

For the record, as I've already said, I don't have a strong opinion either way - I can make the case for both sides of this question. It will probably come down to a specific state's laws regarding who is to issue wedding licenses. As long as a same-sex couple is able to get a marriage license from a county other than their residence county, I suspect that is how the issue will be resolved.

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Old 07-02-2015, 04:28 PM
 
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For the same reason a fast food worker can't refuse to do the dishes.

It's their job.
No one was hired to issue same-sex marriage license, it just came into existence by the supreme court. No one has a long standing credible religious/conscientious objection to washing dishes. I don't want the supreme court writing people's job descriptions.

I'm so tired of the strawman, apples and oranges comparisons and false analogies.
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Old 07-02-2015, 04:29 PM
 
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We'll have to see how it shakes out.

For the record, as I've already said, I don't have a strong opinion either way - I can make the case for both sides of this question.
Ok fair enough. But we know how it will shake out when this country is being ran by progressives.
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Old 07-02-2015, 04:34 PM
 
Location: Virginia Beach
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No one was hired to issue same-sex marriage license

Yes.

They were.

As of last Friday.
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