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Old 07-11-2015, 11:49 AM
 
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It's no myth.

How many U.S. dollars have you created today? How much economic expansion did you foster?
Quite a lot actually, but then I work for a living.
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Old 07-11-2015, 11:52 AM
 
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Wow, a lot of foolishness in this thread, but that's par for the course. Let me give you all the real answer.

We progressives believe in "creating jobs" by ensuring there is a strong middle class. This is done by ensuring decent wages and benefits are being paid. This ensures they can spend money on products and services, which in turn fuels business and job growth. It's done by not burdening people with backbreaking medical and educational costs. It's done by making sure our public schools are fully funded.

I know these are really crazy, radical, insane, "socialist" ideas that are way out there, but the OP asked and that's the answer. By the way, since this misconception often arises, not all Democrat are progressives.
Boil all this garbage down and it says one thing. Government regulation is the key to success.

It's amazing how willfully blind leftists are.
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Old 07-11-2015, 12:43 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Wow, a lot of foolishness in this thread, but that's par for the course. Let me give you all the real answer.

We progressives believe in "creating jobs" by ensuring there is a strong middle class. This is done by ensuring decent wages and benefits are being paid. This ensures they can spend money on products and services, which in turn fuels business and job growth. It's done by not burdening people with backbreaking medical and educational costs. It's done by making sure our public schools are fully funded.

I know these are really crazy, radical, insane, "socialist" ideas that are way out there, but the OP asked and that's the answer. By the way, since this misconception often arises, not all Democrat are progressives.
And as you further increase the labor cost gap between the US and other countries more companies will shift work across our borders to other countries.

Forcing higher wages and benefits does not "create jobs"..at least not in the US.


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Old 07-11-2015, 12:43 PM
 
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Boil all this garbage down and it says one thing. Government regulation is the key to success.

It's amazing how willfully blind leftists are.
Some amount of sensible government regulation is needed to curb unfettered corporatism. We have seen the disastrous results of times when the "free market" is left to its own devices. Did you forget the Great Recession already?

Also, it's pretty telling that you call things like a strong middle class and affordable quality education and healthcare "garbage."
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Old 07-11-2015, 12:46 PM
 
Location: Great State of Texas
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Some amount of sensible government regulation is needed to curb unfettered corporatism. We have seen the disastrous results of times when the "free market" is left to its own devices. Did you forget the Great Recession already?

Also, it's pretty telling that you call things like a strong middle class and affordable quality education and healthcare "garbage."
Left to their own devices ? The government was part and parcel of that Great Recession.

Who changed the laws ? Who was busy looking at porn instead of Wall Street trades ?
Who turned a blind eye on the rating agencies as they diced up junk bonds and labeled them AAA ?

Left to their own devices my foot. Business and government collude.
All those big fines the government got from the banks was nothing more than a payoff for turning a blind eye on the whole mess.
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Old 07-11-2015, 12:49 PM
 
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And as you further increase the labor cost gap between the US and other countries more companies will shift work across our borders to other countries.

Forcing higher wages and benefits does not "create jobs"..at least not in the US.


Blow to UAW: Ford C-Max, Focus production to leave U.S.
Ford said Thursday it will move production of the Focus and C-Max small cars from its Michigan Assembly Plant in 2018, with UAW officials saying they were told the work will leave the U.S..
Yeah, so let's keep racing to the bottom right? Let's make American wages on par with third world countries?

That would be the antithesis of progressive idealism, but par for the course with the GOP.
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Old 07-11-2015, 12:50 PM
 
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Left to their own devices ? The government was part and parcel of that Great Recession.

Who changed the laws ? Who was busy looking at porn instead of Wall Street trades ?
Who turned a blind eye on the rating agencies as they diced up junk bonds and labeled them AAA ?
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Progressive didn't, clearly.
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Old 07-11-2015, 02:05 PM
 
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The government doesn't take your money. It deletes it on the balance sheet. The private sector does not issue currency.
You cant be taken seriously anymore..
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Old 07-11-2015, 08:06 PM
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Left to their own devices ? The government was part and parcel of that Great Recession.

Who changed the laws ? Who was busy looking at porn instead of Wall Street trades ?
Who turned a blind eye on the rating agencies as they diced up junk bonds and labeled them AAA ?

Left to their own devices my foot. Business and government collude.
All those big fines the government got from the banks was nothing more than a payoff for turning a blind eye on the whole mess.
I love this. You go on this crazed rant about how wrong the person you're responding to is, while agreeing with everything he said.
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Old 07-11-2015, 09:16 PM
 
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Been thinking about this. Progressives want minimum this, minimum that, education for everyone that is virtually free now. Pensions, 401k wall street pay-offs, less working hours, etc, etc it goes on and on.

Just wondering, where is all of the 'job creation'? They are making it harder for small business to operate by the year. How is this 'creating jobs'. They are progressing technology at a rate that is going make most manufacturing labor practically unnecessary yet you here them complain about the 'loss of manufacturing because of Capitalism and free markets'.

We are progressing towards a total technology and service based economy. Will this be enough without manufacturing?

Can someone provide some insight as to how jobs are being created with these agendas? Thanks
Are you talking about the federal government? What I don't get is people complaining that government is too big and interfering in people's lives...... yet then they complain they aren't doing enough to add jobs. Why isn't the governor of each state responsible for creating jobs in their state. There are 31 republican governors. What are they doing to create jobs.
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