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Until such time that there is any indication that Canada - in other words, the majority of its populace - wanted to be part of the United States, this question is moot.
At the very least, the hypothetical should include the dynamics of the union. The word 'annex' implies that Canada would form one or more states. What states would these be? If each of the ten Canadian provinces was granted statehood, you'd have those ten provinces-turned-states comprising 10% of the population while gaining 20 seats in the newly-enlarged Senate, or 17% of the 120 seats then in that body. Personally, I don't see many United States Senators, being inclined to vote to dilute their own comparative influence that much. And new states must be admitted by Congress.
Further, given the fact that Canada as a whole is generally well to the left of the United States politically, it seems like there'd be a whole lot of opposition from Republicans to this development, further complicating the process.
You see, for this to happen, most of the players - electorates, politicians - would have to want it to happen. And it doesn't look like anywhere close to a majority, in fact, wants it.
I spent quite a lot of time in Canada.
I can assure you they have no desire to be annexed. Most of them think we are crazy, sort of like a crazy cousin who is all brawn and no brains. Half of them like us a lot more than the other half, and all of them resent the fact they know everything about us and we know nothing about them.
If you think Americans are proud, spend some time up north. Canadians are intensely proud of the nation and culture, and you don't hear any talk about leaving Canada because of the politics. Canada is not nearly as liberal as Americans think. They still think first about the common good for all Canadians, so they all like their health care and their social programs, but everything else is contended just as much as it is here. The only difference is they're more polite in their arguments, and more informed about Canadian civic matters than most Americans are about ours.
And they sure don't want American extremists of any stripe moving there, that's for sure. We're not only crazy, we are uncivilized, impolite and illiterate, and way too full of hubris for our own good.
Even if they like you, and even if you are law abiding and productive, it's still hard to get a long-term visa, and the Canadian immigration people will go over your record and personal history with a fine-toothed comb before the will grant it. Unless you have a handful of recommendations from Canadians, they will also take their own sweet time granting a visa.
They liked us a lot better 10-15 years ago, before the lunacy set in. I'm sure that if I was to go back right now, I would be viewed with a lot more suspicion and/or hostility than I was 9-10 years ago when I was going up there a lot.
Nope. There will be no annexation, ever. There may come a time when we want it, but there will never be a time when they will.
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Nope. There will be no annexation, ever. There may come a time when we want it, but there will never be a time when they will.
Exactly. We have a high concentration of Canadians coming to the Pacific Northwest to shop but they have no desire whatsoever to be "annexed" by the U.S.
Exactly. We have a high concentration of Canadians coming to the Pacific Northwest to shop but they have no desire whatsoever to be "annexed" by the U.S.
Yup. I spent all my time in B.C., and fit right in because I come from a very similar culture to that province's, but some folks I met still suspected I was an idiot until I proved otherwise. Most like America, but few want to move here full-time. Fewer still want to become citizens.
A bunch of us speak french, the state is pretty purple on economic matters, it's catholic, 700,000 Louisianians have lineage to Canada, why not?
It just goes against the OP's theory that we should take Canada when it sounds like many posters would rather be taken BY Canada. Probably not what the OP was hoping for.
That aside, I don't think a state that elected right winger Jindal TWICE is blue enough for Canada.
It just goes against the OP's theory that we should take Canada when it sounds like many posters would rather be taken BY Canada. Probably not what the OP was hoping for.
That aside, I don't think a state that elected right winger Jindal TWICE is blue enough for Canada.
The state hates his guts now. His approval rating in this state is lower than Obama or Hillary. Let the US take the protestant top half, they're mostly backwards rednecks with little money anyways.
If a there was a plebiscite in Canadian province or territory that demonstrated such a desire I see no reason why the U.S. Should not do so. However, lacking such a plebiscite or a request to do so by Ottawa there is no reason the U.S. Should do so.
They liked us a lot better 10-15 years ago, before the lunacy set in. I'm sure that if I was to go back right now, I would be viewed with a lot more suspicion and/or hostility than I was 9-10 years ago when I was going up there a lot.
Really - news to me lol... I think the biggest thing some Canadians have (vocal minority) is this notion that we are more civilized than Americans. These type of people generalize all Americans without taking into account most Americans are probably more like 'we' are than they realize. Anyway suspicion and/or hostility I don't think so but for some a bit of we are a more civilized bunch - yeah you'll get that.. Just tell em that their Prime Minister is a cold bonehead CONservative and it'll shut them up fast.
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Originally Posted by banjomike
Nope. There will be no annexation, ever. There may come a time when we want it, but there will never be a time when they will.
As a famous Canadian turned American once said... "never say never"
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