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Old 07-16-2015, 12:03 PM
 
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What on earth are you talking about? Do you even know what the NPT is about? Do some research, part of the NPT is to decommission nuclear weaponry step by step. What do you think Russia, China, England, France, USA has been doing? It is a system for countries to have nuclear capabilities in energy, not to produce weapons.

But sure, " So be it " until it threatens our national security and oil prices sky rocket over $8 a gallon. But Im sure you would complain about Zionist control and US meddling about it so its a non starter.
The Problem you have is your stuck in some echo chamber in your head. Nuclear fuel Cycle is not equal to a weaponized program. Many Countries have a nuclear Fuel cycle and they are entitled to do so under the NPT. any NPT signatory can if they wish create nuclear fuel cycle.

Do the Research yourself. (rather browsing through war-thirsty websites).

NPT was designed as Atoms for Peace Program. Thus giving every country on earth that is signatory to NPT to have nuclear fuel cycle if that's what they wished to have (hence, Japan, Argentina, Brazil, Germany) have nuclear fuel cycle. NPT was designed so that countries will be able to use Nuclear Technology given that they would not weaponize it.

and under the NPT All Holders of Nuclear Weapons were supposed to have destroyed their own weapons by 1980s. which not only they haven't done. America, Russians and Chinese have built new more advanced ones.

There is nothing in NPT that limits or curbs use of nuclear technology for non-military purposes.
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Old 07-16-2015, 12:07 PM
 
Location: Sonoran Desert
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Israel is not going to bomb Iran. The deal will be very effective at delaying and preventing Iran from getting a bomb and the Israelis (and their US congressional allies) know that. Their incessant carping about it has more to do with a power struggle for dominance in the region and a perceived threat of Iran continuing and expanding its support for Israel's enemies. Yes, that is a legitimate concern for them, but they would be on very thin ice using it as a premise to bomb Iran now that the deal has been cut.
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Old 07-16-2015, 12:27 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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The Problem you have is your stuck in some echo chamber in your head. Nuclear fuel Cycle is not equal to a weaponized program. Many Countries have a nuclear Fuel cycle and they are entitled to do so under the NPT. any NPT signatory can if they wish create nuclear fuel cycle.

Do the Research yourself. (rather browsing through war-thirsty websites).

NPT was designed as Atoms for Peace Program. Thus giving every country on earth that is signatory to NPT to have nuclear fuel cycle if that's what they wished to have (hence, Japan, Argentina, Brazil, Germany) have nuclear fuel cycle. NPT was designed so that countries will be able to use Nuclear Technology given that they would not weaponize it.

and under the NPT All Holders of Nuclear Weapons were supposed to have destroyed their own weapons by 1980s. which not only they haven't done. America, Russians and Chinese have built new more advanced ones.

There is nothing in NPT that limits or curbs use of nuclear technology for non-military purposes.
And all set and done, Iran is violating the NPT by conducting military research. So why do you not hold Iran responsible for their actions? But other than misquoting me, You basically proved the case against Iran.

P.S: What is a war thirsty website?
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Old 07-16-2015, 12:27 PM
 
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After reading through the thread, all I can say is that I think anyone who addresses the question with absolutes, Israel definitely will or Israel definitely won't live in a universe different than mine.
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Old 07-16-2015, 12:30 PM
 
Location: Baltimore
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Israel is not going to bomb Iran. The deal will be very effective at delaying and preventing Iran from getting a bomb and the Israelis (and their US congressional allies) know that. Their incessant carping about it has more to do with a power struggle for dominance in the region and a perceived threat of Iran continuing and expanding its support for Israel's enemies. Yes, that is a legitimate concern for them, but they would be on very thin ice using it as a premise to bomb Iran now that the deal has been cut.

Umm no and no. Without surprise inspections, the deal is based on trust not validation. Without full transparency and compliance, we are blind of what exactly is happening in their undisclosed bunker sites.
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Old 07-16-2015, 12:51 PM
 
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And all set and done, Iran is violating the NPT by conducting military research. So why do you not hold Iran responsible for their actions? But other than misquoting me, You basically proved the case against Iran.
There you go again with your lies. There is no proof Of Iran having a weaponized nuclear program.
Even The public U.S Intelligence reports have said as much.

the only people claiming this has been terrorist group financed by us (the U.S), Israel, French and Saudis.

The MEK is the same Terrorist group (a real terrorist group) is the same group that carried out Attacks against innocent kurds on behalf of Saddam.

the only case against Iran is that we (the West) don't like their governing regime and demand they bow down to us as their gods. They must accept accept word for word what we dictate to them like saudies and Qataries, Kuwaitees, Afghanies, Emiraties, Egyptians, Jordanians do.

They must sell their oil to us and then turn around and buy weapons from us they can't exactly use. With the rest of the money they should buy expensive flashy cars. Whatever is left of their money they should park in our financial institutions so if they ever deviate from our instructions we can quickly punish them and send them a non-violent message.

any Country that does not accept the "New World Order" must be punished.
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Old 07-16-2015, 12:55 PM
 
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Iran is an well oiled machine, not be recon with. They have ties with Mexico. The last thing we need is an war with Iran. Iran have more power then Israel right now. It would look so ugly if they were to get into an war with the US. Also Iran has also pushed that they use there nuclear reactors fur medical purposes. You are stupid to mess with Iran.
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Old 07-16-2015, 12:59 PM
 
Location: In a Galaxy far, far away called Germany
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Iran is an well oiled machine, not be recon with. They have ties with Mexico. The last thing we need is an war with Iran. Iran have more power then Israel right now. It would look so ugly if they were to get into an war with the US. Also Iran has also pushed that they use there nuclear reactors fur medical purposes. You are stupid to mess with Iran.
Really? I doubt anyone is scared of Iran. We suggested to Iran that they build their next generation of Navy with glass bottom boats so they can see their previous navy at the bottom of the Persian Gulf. They would be annihilated if the USA went to war with them. But, that is in no one's interest and it isn't the civilized approach to take when other options are present.
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Old 07-16-2015, 02:23 PM
 
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Israel is *NOT* going to bomb Iran for one simple reason; they are unsure the Obama administration will have their back. Without the sure support of the USA Israel would not risk the military back lash from its Arab neighbors. Especially now when Isis and other groups are not only running lose but seem remarkably well funded.

Obama first in a long line of POTUS hasn't kissed the behinds of Israel and they know it. He did make some overtures during his 2012 re-election cycle to shore up support, but as a lame duck president he doesn't have to worry about the "Jewish vote" any longer.
Oh, I'm sure they know for sure that Obama would not have their back. He's a coward, a betrayer of allies, a supporter of Muslim terrorists, a historical ignoramus and a slave to leftist Israel hating ideology.
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Old 07-16-2015, 02:27 PM
 
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The UN would vote for diplomatic, economic and military actions against Israel. The US would veto most of these. A non-US coalition (Russia, China, Pakistan...) would then bomb the crap out of Israel followed by guerrilla and/or conventional land attacks.
The geopolitical fools are out in force today.
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