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Old 07-17-2015, 05:18 AM
 
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The father was on the watch list and removed but clearly at home this family must have negative thoughts about Americans and probably Jewish people.

Why would a child an American loving parents commit this horrific murders!

There is way more going on with this family and probably friends who share the same ideas.

This has been going on for decades in Europe where Muslim younger people feel entitled and don't want to work and feel it should all be given to them. The naturalize to become a citizen but never a citizen in their heart but just for benefits and the easy way of living.

This government even gave more Muslims a path to stay here and we have no clue what their real thoughts are but more and more we see people dress with scarf and religious clothes confirming their way of living.

Why don't they go to Saudi Arabia or other so called free countries where they fit in better then a Western country.


These types of attacks will become the norm to scare us all and destroy our economy and becoming scared to go to places.
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Old 07-17-2015, 05:48 AM
 
Location: Phoenix
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We can't tell which are the 'moderate Muslims' and who's not. Their religion is not compatible with democracy because they believe only in submission to Sharia Law, not the law of the country they reside. At some point in time, we will need to send them all back, they are a cancer on democracy, freedom, and life.
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Old 07-17-2015, 07:05 AM
 
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The Father was on a "watch list" and then dropped. The Killer graduates from College and then travels back to "home", which is either Kuwait (where he was born) or perhaps Jordan (where he held citizenship) -- at the very least, he was back in the Mid-East for the last year or so (according to CNN). NSA, FBI & CIA apparently ignore these Muslims that return to their "home" area and then come back to the good old USA to do their Jihad. I guess they spend all their time on the really serious "terrorists" like Associated Press journalists and FOX News Reporters.

As usual - the White House calls it "heinous" and Hillary Clinton calls it "senseless". They both call it "violence" and none call it what it is. Jihad against the USA for their Religion. They are Terrorists and they KNOW exactly what their Jihad is all about. They pick their targets well - this time it was (as it so often is) US Military Facilities. As usual, the Men & Women in those Military Facilities are sitting targets and not allowed to carry weapons.

4 More Killed - the tally rises.
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Old 07-17-2015, 07:20 AM
 
Location: Cape Cod
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That most recent idiot murderer was muslim first and a terrorist second. For many the 2 are the same and with these increasing attacks it is becoming clear that we should fear them.
How crazy does that sound in 2015?

But you know something when I first heard that there was a shooting I suspected it was someone with a muslim name and sadly I was right. I'm sure many people thought the same.

Why can't the president call it what it is? Domestic Terrorism. It is not work place violence or a lone wolf acting out but it is terrorism with isis alqueda ties.

What is the answer? Should we arm everyone at any potential target?

What is it going to take for our Gov. to wake up and realize there is a real threat here. Will it take a mass shooting at a mall or grocery store or a dirty bomb in Times Square?

The profile of these shooters is they are young radical muslim men so they should be watched carefully.

I don't know why Obama doesn't order isis to be taken out? The next time they have a parade we should carpet bomb the route and then gun up and get ready for retaliation on our soil from the sleepers.

It is crazy and sick but the latest post from isis shows a teenage girl getting ready to chop a head off a poor soul.
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Old 07-17-2015, 07:53 AM
 
Location: Iowa, USA
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The father was on the watch list and removed but clearly at home this family must have negative thoughts about Americans and probably Jewish people.
Not sure why you got the Jews involved, but being on an FBI list, then being dropped, really doesn't strike me as alarming.

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Why would a child an American loving parents commit this horrific murders!
I don't know, but it's happened before with people of various faiths and ethnicities. But of course, this was a Muslim so it's different.

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There is way more going on with this family and probably friends who share the same ideas.
This is a very aggressive assumption. You're sharing speculation as if it's fact.

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This has been going on for decades in Europe where Muslim younger people feel entitled and don't want to work and feel it should all be given to them. The naturalize to become a citizen but never a citizen in their heart but just for benefits and the easy way of living.

This government even gave more Muslims a path to stay here and we have no clue what their real thoughts are but more and more we see people dress with scarf and religious clothes confirming their way of living.
Was this unexpected immigration rant going somewhere?

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Why don't they go to Saudi Arabia or other so called free countries where they fit in better then a Western country.
How fun. 'Free countries.' Yeah, America truly is the beacon of freedom in the world with our ever so transparent government and growing list of civil liberties that are maintained, even in this troubling time of counter terrorism. Wait...

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These types of attacks will become the norm to scare us all and destroy our economy and becoming scared to go to places.
These attacks are largely exaggerated. They happen, but how often? The average America is statistically very unlikely to die in a terror attack by any ethnic group. Based purely on statistics, you should be far more concerned about heart disease if you're truly afraid of dying.
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Old 07-17-2015, 08:29 AM
 
Location: Del Rio, TN
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The father was on the watch list and removed but clearly at home this family must have negative thoughts about Americans and probably Jewish people.

Why would a child an American loving parents commit this horrific murders!

There is way more going on with this family and probably friends who share the same ideas.

This has been going on for decades in Europe where Muslim younger people feel entitled and don't want to work and feel it should all be given to them. The naturalize to become a citizen but never a citizen in their heart but just for benefits and the easy way of living.

This government even gave more Muslims a path to stay here and we have no clue what their real thoughts are but more and more we see people dress with scarf and religious clothes confirming their way of living.

Why don't they go to Saudi Arabia or other so called free countries where they fit in better then a Western country.


These types of attacks will become the norm to scare us all and destroy our economy and becoming scared to go to places.
Would the people "screening" these watch lists be the same people "screening" the Islamic "refugees" we are importing from the most violent parts of the world?
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Old 07-17-2015, 08:31 AM
 
Location: NJ
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The father was on the watch list and removed but clearly at home this family must have negative thoughts about Americans and probably Jewish people.

Why would a child an American loving parents commit this horrific murders!

There is way more going on with this family and probably friends who share the same ideas.

This has been going on for decades in Europe where Muslim younger people feel entitled and don't want to work and feel it should all be given to them. The naturalize to become a citizen but never a citizen in their heart but just for benefits and the easy way of living.

This government even gave more Muslims a path to stay here and we have no clue what their real thoughts are but more and more we see people dress with scarf and religious clothes confirming their way of living.

Why don't they go to Saudi Arabia or other so called free countries where they fit in better then a Western country.


These types of attacks will become the norm to scare us all and destroy our economy and becoming scared to go to places.
The fact that our feds missed the boston bombers after getting a warning from Russia, tells us our fed agencies are being hamstrung by an administration that would rather its citzens suffer pain than obama to be guilty of violating some social justice rule.

When we hear someone is on a watch list, it means the guy's name is on a list. PERIOD! Talk about LEO's wasting time on low level drug crime, the feds spend more time persecuting EPA violations than protecting our country from its enemies. When the Feds declare we are all enemies for violating one of the 10s of thousands of new EPA regs they don't have time to follow up names on the 'watch list".
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Old 07-17-2015, 08:33 AM
 
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IF the father is the traditional head of the family and is being watched...then it makes sense that those who he is in authority over should also be on the watch list. Why did those doing the watching overlook this basic premise?
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Old 07-17-2015, 08:37 AM
 
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We can't tell which are the 'moderate Muslims' and who's not. Their religion is not compatible with democracy because they believe only in submission to Sharia Law, not the law of the country they reside. At some point in time, we will need to send them all back, they are a cancer on democracy, freedom, and life.
I have associates who are so called moderate Muslims....they make money...drink on occasion and like fast cars....the reality is there is no such thing as a self described moderate Muslim...these guys in truth have dumped the silly parts of ancient Islam. They are no longer real Muslims....they has blended into western society and have keep the GOOD and logical doctrines of the faith....just like real Christians who have jettisoned the silly parts of Christianity...
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Old 07-17-2015, 09:08 AM
 
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We can't tell which are the 'moderate Muslims' and who's not. Their religion is not compatible with democracy because they believe only in submission to Sharia Law, not the law of the country they reside. At some point in time, we will need to send them all back, they are a cancer on democracy, freedom, and life.
Hmmm... we seem to be better at determining who the Confederates are. Maybe we should apply the same standards to the Islamists...
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