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Old 07-24-2015, 10:57 PM
 
Location: Jawjah
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The urban camo attired, tribal tatted, MIA-listening, scrappy, fist-raising progessive left is okay with turning a previously thriving Libya into a no-man's land of chaos, then arming a future ISIS with weapons from three Benghazi warehouses in order to topple a stable Syria.

Both nations, BTW, that had state-run central banks (and not private banking-family controlled ones). Syria still does for the moment.
You mean that Libya were John "Aint no war I dont like" McCain and several other GOPers actually wanted even more involvement in and even took photo ops with ISIS soldiers?
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Old 07-24-2015, 10:58 PM
 
Location: Oceania
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His online posts sound like they'd be right at home in this forum.

From the link:

"he wrote about taxes, Obama and the impending collapse of the United States"

"It is true that the US is about to fall. I will be in fear at that time as will everyone else,but not in a fear which resembles that of the leaders of foolishness and the brainwashed that follow.Truth carries with it an understanding of death. Rather than live without it, I will take death. My greatest fear is that I could die making a decision for the good of myself against everyone else."

Nutjobs come in a variety of flavors, though.


What is yours?
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Old 07-24-2015, 11:02 PM
 
Location: East St. Paul 651 forever (or North St. Paul) .
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What agenda? All it takes is an example from two weeks ago to prove you're full of ****.

the Chattanooga case argues my point more than yours, so I don't know what you're on
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Old 07-24-2015, 11:03 PM
 
Location: West Phoenix
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It is funny that the liberals go ape **** when there is a shooting, but there is nothing but the sound of crickets about the stabbings that killed a entire family.
Silent 911 call leads police to find 5 fatally stabbed in Oklahoma home; 2 sons held | Fox News
Oh, and do they blame the knife or the killer ?

or how about the 4 bridesmaids killed by the drunk driver

4 women celebrating upcoming wedding killed when pickup truck strikes limo | Fox News

Where is the call for knife control ? or Dodge truck control ? maybe we should ban alcohol, I mean if it saves one life isn't it worth it ?
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Old 07-24-2015, 11:07 PM
 
Location: Jawjah
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It is funny that the liberals go ape **** when there is a shooting, but there is nothing but the sound of crickets about the stabbings that killed a entire family.
Silent 911 call leads police to find 5 fatally stabbed in Oklahoma home; 2 sons held | Fox News
Oh, and do they blame the knife or the killer ?

or how about the 4 bridesmaids killed by the drunk driver

4 women celebrating upcoming wedding killed when pickup truck strikes limo | Fox News

Where is the call for knife control ? or Dodge truck control ? maybe we should ban alcohol, I mean if it saves one life isn't it worth it ?
If there was a gun involved, the body count would have been much higher.

A gun is a weapon - what part of the word "weapon" do you not understand? An entity meant to kill almost instantly.
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Old 07-25-2015, 12:22 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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Nope! Not I.

As I've stated many times in threads you've contributed to; at this stage of the game that would merely support all suspicions the government was in full tyrannical mode and get you all to digging holes in your yard to bury your arms stash.

I believe there is no option at this juncture but for the majority (not simply a 51% either) to agree there is an out of control problem with the only solution being a limiting of purchase to very strict guidelines and a forced policing of the laws currently standing.

The majority of Americans have no desire to regress to the 1850's and once realizing that is the road they're on without any of it dictated by threat from anyone other than their fellow citizens, they'll begin to get loud in their condemnation of all this unrestrained gun ownership. It's not as if you're out there protecting yourselves from a government run amock or a foreign country about to invade you, it's your own citizens you're all afraid of and for good reason, they're the ones with the guns!

I don't think that point has been reached yet.......... but It's coming as sure as summer follows spring.
In other words, you believe we ought to remove the "Right" to bear arms and start treating it as a privilege, to where even someone with a completely clean criminal record and mental health record could be denied the purchase of a gun for any reason, or no reason at all, according to the arbitrary discretion of an arbitrary authority....

Great, now we're getting somewhere. Obviously I don't agree with you, but what you propose at least is a real solution.
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Old 07-25-2015, 12:26 AM
 
Location: Houston
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When were liberals anti government? They have been anti war.
Classical liberals were for limited government and individual liberty. The socialists stole the term.
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Old 07-25-2015, 12:32 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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Semantics. If you "want" one then. It isn't a punishment if you can still have a gun if you "choose" to own one, or not own one. All freedoms are restricted in some way - for example, it is not OK to broadcast pornography on daytime television. Why is it that the slightest mention of "regulation" on gun ownership gets people all fired up about "freedom" or "tyranny" or some other crap?
Because particularly when we're talking about guns, regulation will just lead to more regulation. Take any advanced country as evidence.

Ban "assault weapons"...... Then when the next guy does a mass shooting with a handgun, you'll want to ban those. Then the next guy'll use a shotgun, so we'll ban all pump action shotguns. Then we'll ban all guns that hold more than one round, etc. and on it goes.

What you're left with is a gutted 2A completely unrecognizable, not that you think that's a bad thing, but many others do and that's why they get all "fired up"
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Old 07-25-2015, 12:35 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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Is anyone really surprised that just like Dylan Roof this guy was a Republican/Conservative/TeaPartier full of anti-US government and minority hatred brought on by years of hate-filled conservative media enragement?

Heck even the Chattanooga/TN arab-american shooter wanted to be labeled an "American Redneck"!

Folks, buying enough guns to fill a basement and hating on the US government incessantly is not normal - get help if you are such a conservative, please!
Is anyone surprised that sicko Liberals are trying to use yet another mass murder to link Conservatism with violence?

Somehow I doubt it.....
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Old 07-25-2015, 12:42 AM
 
Location: Ohio
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If there was a gun involved, the body count would have been much higher.

A gun is a weapon - what part of the word "weapon" do you not understand? An entity meant to kill almost instantly.
They must be poorly designed then, because as I recollect, most shootings turn out to be non-fatal.
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