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There are two groups of Muslims: Islamists and Secularists.
Secular Muslim American would have first allegiance to USA and not to any other Muslim country. Also, a Secular Muslim would uphold the US constitution as the supreme law of the land and not want it to be superseded by Sharia/Islamic Law. Islamist would be the complete opposite of a Secularist.
Liberals are currently supporting both types of Muslims, but are mostly hand in hand with the Islamist Muslim - which is extremely dangerous.
Here is an example of an Islamist Muslim, whose first allegiance is with his religion or any other Muslim country, but not to the Infidel country that he lives in:
Why do you think Americans should butt in on an Australian argument?
And your contention that American liberals are hand-in-hand with islamist muslims is simply silly.
Or those liberals in your head are confusing you again. Maybe you should have your meds checked.
Out here, in the real world, liberals are opposed to government being the enforcement arm of religion and religion being the policy arm of the government. That is why gay couples can marry each other, why interracial couples can marry each other, why women are free to live their lives as they please and don't need permission slips from husbands, abortion is legal (although this is under attack), and atheism is growing. None of this was universally true 40 years ago, and these causes were championed by liberals - and identified as liberal causes at the time by conservatives who mostly did everything they could to oppose them (and in many cases still do.) Look me in the eye and tell me that islamists approve of church/state separation, abortion, feminism (including sexual freedom), homosexuality and atheism. I dare you.
I won't necessarily argue that Democrats are too soft of Islam. They are. But I take issue with some of the points you make.
Like the dress code bit. What can Democrats (or Republicans) in the US do about laws in the Middle East? Despite our efforts, Middle Eastern nations are not ours to govern. Voicing support or disapproval is meaningless in this area.
And it's true that Democrats are often against the Christian right. I think any intelligent person should be against it. The Christian right is a nice way of saying Authoritarian Christianity. All authoritarian ideologies should be rejected. Democrats are more willing to reject Christian ones, but not so much Islamic ones. In fairness, how many Muslim power grabs have there been in the US?
Democrats support very PC thinking. This is bad. It creates problems. Islam, like anything else, should be open to criticism without someone playing victim. But people should do so respectfully and objectively. Too many people will say something about Islam as if it's the worst thing ever, but it's true of their religion as well. Maybe to a lesser degree, but does that make the ideology better? Like the 'authoritarian religion' comment. I wouldn't say a religion that claims you go to Hell unless you love Jesus isn't authoritarian. Replace 'Hell' with prison and 'love Jesus' with 'support this dictator' and you've just described ever authoritarian regime ever. Same deal with Islam of course.
I heard once that the true religions of peace are the polytheist religions, because they have many Gods within their own religion, hence they are accepting of others as well.
Coming to Islam and Christianity.
The Quran says repeatedly that Muhammad is the perfect human being and an example for Muslims to follow for ALL times.
Problem is, according to the Islamic sources themselves, Muhammad; had 11 wives at any given time, had a 6 year old child bride (Aisha) and he consummated the marriage when she was 9 and he was 54 years old, married his own step-son's wife (Zainab), had sex slaves (Maria the Copt), tortured his critics (Asma bint Marwan), ordered stoning, ordered mass beheadings (Banu Qurayza), lit fire on a man's chest (Kinana of Khaybar) to get him to say where the loot is hidden, looted caravans of other tribes, etc.
In comparison, Jesus was a hippie with no wives, sex slaves, or kills to his name.
From the Chattanooga, TN terrorists own blog:
He wrote that some people thought that the Sahaba, the companions of Muhammad, were priests "living in monasteries" but that that wasn't true. "Everyone one of them fought Jihad for the sake of Allah. Everyone one of them had to make sacrifices in their lives."
So, the Quran says be like Muhammad, but Muhammad is violent, so when Muslims follow him as an example, the world calls them terrorists, when infact they are martyrs who will be rewarded in heaven with 72 virgins.
It is unfair to say all religions are the same, some are worse than others.
Pakistani immigrants can't side with US conservatives because they are hated by conservatives. I dont think the OP has watched FoxNews yet...the hate against asians, muslims (Pakistan is majority muslim) on an almost constant basis is intense.
I had many pakistani neighbors in the late 90s...back then Pakistanis used to vote for the GOP. Not true now - why would they vote for a party that literally hates their race and religion? The GOP is also a very Christian party and a majorty of Pakistanis are Muslims. Just look at the hate that even the mainstream Christian pastors have for Muslims.
Pakistani immigrants can't side with US conservatives because they are hated by conservatives. I dont think the OP has watched FoxNews yet...the hate against asians, muslims (Pakistan is majority muslim) on an almost constant basis is intense.
I had many pakistani neighbors in the late 90s...back then Pakistanis used to vote for the GOP. Not true now - why would they vote for a party that literally hates their race and religion? The GOP is also a very Christian party and a majorty of Pakistanis are Muslims. Just look at the hate that even the mainstream Christian pastors have for Muslims.
It is simply not true.
Look at Bobby Jindal and Nikki Haley both of Indian descent, part of the conservative movement.
You claim that the conservatives are racists? If that is so why are Hindus, the Sikhs, the Buddhists, Jains, etc, never in the news and its always Muslims? Its not just in the US either, but every western country.
There is a very small minority of Muslims that 'commit' terror, but a majority of Muslims 'support' terror in the name of Islam.
Pakistani immigrants can't side with US conservatives because they are hated by conservatives. I dont think the OP has watched FoxNews yet...the hate against asians
Yeah. Imagine a dark-skinned Asian trying to make a career in conservative politics in the American South. LOL, right? It could never happen...
Look at Bobby Jindal and Nikki Haley both of Indian descent, part of the conservative movement.
You claim that the conservatives are racists? If that is so why are Hindus, the Sikhs, the Buddhists, Jains, etc, never in the news and its always Muslims? Its not just in the US either, but every western country.
There is a very small minority of Muslims that 'commit' terror, but a majority of Muslims 'support' terror in the name of Islam.
"Bobby" and "Nikki" both converted to christianity and are of indian descent not pakistan descent. And they are both hardline tea partiers. A pakistan immigrant would have to convert to christianity, marry a white christian (like Nikki), and be anti-muslim to make it in the GOP.
"Bobby" and "Nikki" both converted to christianity and are of indian descent not pakistan descent. And they are both hardline tea partiers. A pakistan immigrant would have to convert to christianity, marry a white christian (like Nikki), and be anti-muslim to make it in the GOP.
Indians and Pakistanis are the same race. All Pakistanis are Ex-Indians.
Indians and Pakistanis are the same race. All Pakistanis are Ex-Indians.
Also, Islam is not a race, but a religion.
You can definitely make it in the GOP - just do what Piyush did. Convert to christianity. Start hating on muslims, arabs and minorities. Act like a Tea Partier: Buy plenty of guns. Be anti-science. Quote Jesus incessantly. Talk about "taking our country back" from minorities. Have a portrait painted with a lighter skin color. Go on FoxNews and bash Muslims.
You can definitely make it in the GOP - just do what Piyush did. Convert to christianity. Start hating on muslims, arabs and minorities. Act like a Tea Partier: Buy plenty of guns. Be anti-science. Quote Jesus incessantly. Talk about "taking our country back" from minorities. Have a portrait painted with a lighter skin color. Go on FoxNews and bash Muslims.
Arent you the one being racist here by assuming everyone is going to behave one way based on one specimen; Bobby Jindal?
Coming back to the OP; why are the Liberals in support of Islamic terror, hatred and misogyny?
Coming back to the OP; why are the Liberals in support of Islamic terror, hatred and misogyny?
They are not. You are confusing them with the Tea Party. The Tea Party is very similar to the conservatives in Pakistan...they want to keep the women under wraps, are religious fanatics, hate minorities, like to terrorise and invade other countries etc. If you truly are a pakistani immigrant, you would know how conservative Pakistan is.
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